[occi-wg] OCCI Editor Getting Started Guide (docs/README.txt)

Andre Merzky andre at merzky.net
Tue Mar 16 10:56:19 CDT 2010

Hi Sam, all,

ready to discuss licensing again? :-)

here is an update from OGF28: first, we heard rumours that you may
show up here - this would be great, not in the least so that we can
discuss the licensing thingie F2F.  Usually that is way more
productive than endless mailing threads like this one, isn't it :)

Anyway, I just wanted to tell you that we have been discussing the
issues from the recent email exchanges (and I hope sincerely that
these are the issues you are in fact concerned about) within the

So, there was some discussion to review the current IPR text, and to
clarify those passages which seem, in your reading, to hide the
fact/intent that using any amount of text from a GFD for
documentation and any other purpose is legally perfectly fine:

  "...derivative works that comment on or otherwise explain it or
  assist in its implementation may be prepared, copied, published
  and distributed, in whole or in part, without restriction of any

We will be cross-checking with similar texts of other standards
bodies, in particular including IETF, which seem to recently have
updated their IPR texts as well, to remove some ambiguities.  The
OGF IPR was originally modeled after IETF's, and, IIRC, was
basically reproducing the OGF IPR word by word.

Further we have been discussing the point you raised that the state
of OGF documents would be frozen in the case of OGF's disappearance.
If this turns out to be a concern for the community, we will
consider adding a clause which would release the documents into the
public domain in the case of OGF's demise - we certainly don't want
to hold anybody back in continuing to work with OGF documents in
that case.

Both of the above changes however need to be evaluated, and need to
be approved by the OGF board.  While we don't think this is a
problem per se, this will need time to be changed.

The OGF IPR is designed as it is to fulfil three goals: (a) support
the production and consumption of standards, (b) ensure that OGF
documents (i.e.  documents released under OGF copyright) went
through the OGF document process, and (c) secure OGF against legal
litigations.  The board will need to make sure that in particular
(b) and (c) are not affected by the proposed changes.  If this
sounds overly bureaucratic to you: well, that is the way we work ;-)

Please let us know if changes along those lines would make you sleep
better :-D

FWIW: for the same reasons as above (a-c), we do actually require
that OGF documents are under full OGF copyright, and it does not
seem likely that a proposal for dual licensing would find much
support, if any. 

Looking forward to see you in Munich!

Best, Andre.

Nothing is ever easy.

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