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<div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Courier" size="3" color="#333333" style="font: 11.0px Courier; color: #333333">| OGSA Teleconference - January 10, 2008 - WS-Naming</font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Courier" size="3" color="#333333" style="font: 11.0px Courier; color: #333333">| =========================================================</font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Courier" size="3" color="#333333" style="font: 11.0px Courier; color: #333333">| </font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Courier" size="3" color="#333333" style="font: 11.0px Courier; color: #333333">| * Participants</font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Courier" size="3" color="#333333" style="font: 11.0px Courier; color: #333333">| </font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Courier; font-size: 11px; ">| Dave Snelling [Fujitsu]</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Courier; font-size: 11px; ">| Hiro Kishimoto [Fujitsu]</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Courier; font-size: 11px; ">| Andreas Savva [Fujitsu]</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Courier; font-size: 11px; ">| Andrew Grimshaw [UvA]</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Courier; font-size: 11px; ">| Steve MacGough [IC]</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Courier; font-size: 11px; ">| Donnal Fellows [UoM]</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Courier; font-size: 11px; ">| Ali Anjomshoaa [Mobability]</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Courier; font-size: 11px; ">| </span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Courier" size="3" color="#333333" style="font: 11.0px Courier; color: #333333">| Minutes: Dave Snelliing</font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Courier" size="3" color="#333333" style="font: 11.0px Courier; color: #333333">| </font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Courier" size="3" color="#333333" style="font: 11.0px Courier; color: #333333">| * Summary of New Actions</font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#333333" face="Courier" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 11px;"><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#333333" face="Courier" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 11px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>[Andrew] ACTION: Andrew to contact Satoshi Sekiguchi to see if WS-Naming can be incorporated into DIAS WG.</span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#333333" face="Courier" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 11px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; "><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#333333" face="Courier" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 11px;"><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#333333" face="Courier" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 11px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>[Andrew] ACTION: Find out from Mark how this is supported in Genesis.</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#333333" face="Courier" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 11px;"><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#333333" face="Courier" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 11px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; "><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#333333" face="Courier" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 11px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; "><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#333333" face="Courier" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 11px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>[Andrew and Dave] ACTION: Decide on errata plans.</span></font></div></span></span></font></div></span></span></font></div></span></span></font></div><div><br></div></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Courier" size="3" color="#333333" style="font: 11.0px Courier; color: #333333">| * Minutes <<day month>> approved with [changes/no changes]</font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#333333" face="Courier" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 11px;"><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#333333" face="Courier" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 11px;">No minutes to approve.</span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#333333" face="Courier" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 11px;"><br></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Courier; font-size: 11px; ">| * Action Item review</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#333333" face="Courier" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 11px;"><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#333333" face="Courier" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 11px;">No outstanding Actions.</span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#333333" face="Courier" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 11px;"><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#333333" face="Courier" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 11px;">| * Adoption of WS-Naming.</span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#333333" face="Courier" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 11px;"><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#333333" face="Courier" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 11px; ">The spec had a bit to allow the address to hold the EPI. There may be some problem with the client knowing the location of thi identifier. There is a separate claim URI for this, so what is the problem?</span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#333333" face="Courier" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 11px;"><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#333333" face="Courier" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 11px;"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>[-] ISSUE: Should WS-Naming take action on the EPI in the address.<br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#333333" face="Courier" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 11px;"><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#333333" face="Courier" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 11px;"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>No action required.<br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#333333" face="Courier" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 11px; "><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#333333" face="Courier" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 11px; ">No action to be taken however.</span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#333333" face="Courier" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 11px; "><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#333333" face="Courier" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 11px; ">The Resolver is the key function that UvA has exploited. It is thought that Frank is doing something with this spec, but we have not confirmed this. Fujitsu plans to use it in USMT. It seems that DIAS working group may use this.</span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#333333" face="Courier" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 11px; "><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#333333" face="Courier" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 11px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>[Andrew] ACTION: Andrew to contact Satoshi Sekiguchi to see if WS-Naming can be incorporated into DIAS WG.</span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#333333" face="Courier" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 11px;"><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#333333" face="Courier" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 11px;">They don't use it now, but might think about it in future work.</span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#333333" face="Courier" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 11px;"><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#333333" face="Courier" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 11px;">Uptake in industry is dependent on a product or use case requirement. The fact is that within the enterprise today most relocation is done with V-LANS and load balancers. So only when distribution is required across multiple institutions is WS-Naming needed.</span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#333333" face="Courier" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 11px;"><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#333333" face="Courier" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 11px;">Groups like EGEE might be possible targets.</span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#333333" face="Courier" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 11px;"><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#333333" face="Courier" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 11px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; "><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#333333" face="Courier" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 11px; ">There is a possible enhancement to allow the client to indicate in requests the service that it understands the WS-Naming protocol. The problem is this. If the service can satisfy the request, but would rather redirect further requests. If the service can't tell the client understands, the service cannot redirect.</span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#333333" face="Courier" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 11px; "><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#333333" face="Courier" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 11px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>[-] ISSUE: What do we do about a client indicating that it understands WS-Naming? </span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#333333" face="Courier" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 11px; "><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#333333" face="Courier" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 11px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>[Andrew] ACTION: Find out from Mark how this is supported in Genesis.</span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#333333" face="Courier" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 11px; "><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#333333" face="Courier" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 11px;">If we do an errata:</span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#333333" face="Courier" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 11px;"><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#333333" face="Courier" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 11px;"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>- Add client capability hint.<br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#333333" face="Courier" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 11px;"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>- Tidy up EPI Address profile (wrt rebinding).<br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#333333" face="Courier" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 11px;"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>- Add Frank to the editors list.<br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#333333" face="Courier" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 11px;"><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#333333" face="Courier" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 11px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; "><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#333333" face="Courier" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 11px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>[Andrew and Dave] ACTION: Decide on errata plans.</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#333333" face="Courier" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 11px;"><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></span></font></div></span></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><br></div></span></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#333333" face="Courier" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 11px;">| * Sidebar</span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#333333" face="Courier" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 11px;"><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#333333" face="Courier" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 11px;">Andrew summarized the WS-Naming spec.</span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><br></div><div> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><div>-- </div><div><br class="khtml-block-placeholder"></div></span></span></span><div>Take care:</div><div><br class="khtml-block-placeholder"></div><div> Dr. David Snelling < David . 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