fdijkstr at science.uva.nl
Thu Jun 26 16:07:04 CDT 2008
John Vollbrecht commented on physical links:
> To me the physical link is the basic element. Virtual or logical
> links may exist but are built by "relations" with physical links.
When I think about network I often also reason in this way. However,
I suggest not to _enforce_ that virtual links are built by relations
with physical links, but only _allow_ it.
For example, it should be possible to describe all links in the GLIF
community (http://www.glif.is/publications/maps/). Remember that these
links are *not* direct physical links. Most of them are OC-192 circuits
provided by large networks such as T-Systems and Global Crossing. I do
not want to _enforce_ people to first describe those underlying physical
networks, although I most certainly like to _enable_ people to do so.
Chris Tracy responded to my comment about link "capacity":
>> In this case, I'd say that the capacity of the physical layer link is
>> (1.25*10^9)/8 byte/s and the capacity of the Ethernet layer link is
>> (1.00*10^9)/8 byte/s.
> Similarly, in the case of DWDM systems, the physical layer on the TRIB
> side for 10GigE might be ((1.00*10^10)*66/64) bits/s but higher on the
> LINE side if g.709 FEC is being used...(which according to some
> descriptions of g.709 makes the line rate ~11.095 Gbps for a 10GigE w/
> g.709 overhead and FEC ). I can understand it being useful to know
> which portions of the path may or may not have FEC capabilities, but
> it is a lot of detail to try and capture..
Agreed, it is a lot of detail, and I certainly don't advocate that we
force people to publish these details. I just say that we should be
explicit what capacity we are referring to (payload only or with
encoding/headers -- think IP MTU 1480 bytes = Ethernet MTU = 1500 bytes).
The capacity I'm talking about would include the headers, not only the
payload. (to describe the capacity of the payload, you must first define
the payload as a channel (= logical link) inside this link, and then
specify the capacity of that channel as property of that channel.
As for this specific case, I don't see a compelling use case (yet) to
describe FEC, but I would advocate a technology-independent model which
allows one to describe this as two different sublayers, with two
different link capacities (with a GFP-based adaptation between the two
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