From mailinglists at battre.de Wed Apr 4 09:04:24 2007 From: mailinglists at battre.de (Dominic Battre) Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2007 16:04:24 +0200 Subject: [GRAAP-WG] Final version of the spec In-Reply-To: <460BBC03.2070303@scai.fraunhofer.de> References: <460BBC03.2070303@scai.fraunhofer.de> Message-ID: <4613B068.8080909@battre.de> Hi. I guess it might be too late already... I think I have found another inconsistency: According to chapter 9.4 Port Type wsag:Agreement, the Agreement has the following Resource Properties: wsag:Name, wsag:Id, wsag:Context, and wsag:Terms. The Schema files however use "wsag:AgreementId" instead of "wsag:Id": Best regards, Dominic Wolfgang Ziegler wrote: > Dear all, > > the final version including all changes received after > the one week final call period is now available here: > > http://forge.gridforum.org/sf/docman/do/downloadDocument/projects.graap-wg/docman.root.current_drafts/doc6091/48 > > I will inform the area chairs and the editor that we > completed the spec and are ready to move it to the > editor's pipeline. > > > Thanks to all contributors of last changes and best regards > > Wolfgang > > > > From Stephen.Pickles at manchester.ac.uk Wed Apr 4 09:50:41 2007 From: Stephen.Pickles at manchester.ac.uk (Stephen M Pickles) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 15:50:41 +0100 Subject: [GRAAP-WG] Final version of the spec In-Reply-To: <4613B068.8080909@battre.de> References: <460BBC03.2070303@scai.fraunhofer.de> <4613B068.8080909@battre.de> Message-ID: <20070404155041307.00000003984@Wombat> If the group can quickly agree how to fix this inconsistency, and give me a corrected version, I could restart the GFSG review once it's done. I would not be happy about moving the specification to proposed recommendation while it possesses known errors like this one. Stephen > -----Original Message----- > From: graap-wg-bounces at ogf.org > [mailto:graap-wg-bounces at ogf.org] On Behalf Of Dominic Battre > Sent: 04 April 2007 15:04 > To: GRAAP-WG > Subject: Re: [GRAAP-WG] Final version of the spec > > Hi. > > I guess it might be too late already... I think I have found another > inconsistency: > > According to chapter 9.4 Port Type wsag:Agreement, the > Agreement has the > following Resource Properties: wsag:Name, wsag:Id, wsag:Context, and > wsag:Terms. > > The Schema files however use "wsag:AgreementId" instead of "wsag:Id": > > > > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > Dominic > > > Wolfgang Ziegler wrote: > > Dear all, > > > > the final version including all changes received after > > the one week final call period is now available here: > > > > > http://forge.gridforum.org/sf/docman/do/downloadDocument/proje > cts.graap-wg/docman.root.current_drafts/doc6091/48 > > > > I will inform the area chairs and the editor that we > > completed the spec and are ready to move it to the > > editor's pipeline. > > > > > > Thanks to all contributors of last changes and best regards > > > > Wolfgang > > > > > > > > > > -- > graap-wg mailing list > graap-wg at ogf.org > http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/graap-wg > > From mailinglists at battre.de Wed Apr 4 10:00:24 2007 From: mailinglists at battre.de (Dominic Battre) Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2007 17:00:24 +0200 Subject: [GRAAP-WG] Final version of the spec In-Reply-To: <4613B068.8080909@battre.de> References: <460BBC03.2070303@scai.fraunhofer.de> <4613B068.8080909@battre.de> Message-ID: <4613BD88.6060708@battre.de> Hi. Another (less grave) problem is in section 4.2.6.1 Guarantee Term Structure: The description of the GuaranteeTerms does not contain the (in my opinion MANDATORY) @Name attribute even though it is inherited from TermType and necessary for the GuaranteeTermStateList. You need it to refer to the GuaranteeTerms. The schema files are correct though. Best regards, Dominic From t-nakata at cw.jp.nec.com Wed Apr 4 14:46:05 2007 From: t-nakata at cw.jp.nec.com (t-nakata at cw.jp.nec.com) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2007 04:46:05 +0900 Subject: [GRAAP-WG] Final version of the spec In-Reply-To: <20070404155041307.00000003984@Wombat> References: <460BBC03.2070303@scai.fraunhofer.de> <4613B068.8080909@battre.de> <20070404155041307.00000003984@Wombat> Message-ID: Hi: Apologies for posting a large (well 140KB) file to all the group but it seems I cannot access GridForge right now. Please find attached a **candidate** (ie not final) to fix the two problems that Dominic pointed out. To be on the safe side, I chose AgreementId rather than Id but if people are not happy about it then it can be changed back easily. Best Regards Toshi > If the group can quickly agree how to fix this > inconsistency, and give me a corrected version, > I could restart the GFSG review once it's done. > > I would not be happy about moving the specification > to proposed recommendation while it possesses known > errors like this one. > > Stephen > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: graap-wg-bounces at ogf.org >> [mailto:graap-wg-bounces at ogf.org] On Behalf Of Dominic Battre >> Sent: 04 April 2007 15:04 >> To: GRAAP-WG >> Subject: Re: [GRAAP-WG] Final version of the spec >> >> Hi. >> >> I guess it might be too late already... I think I have found another >> inconsistency: >> >> According to chapter 9.4 Port Type wsag:Agreement, the >> Agreement has the >> following Resource Properties: wsag:Name, wsag:Id, wsag:Context, and >> wsag:Terms. >> >> The Schema files however use "wsag:AgreementId" instead of "wsag:Id": >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Best regards, >> >> Dominic >> >> >> Wolfgang Ziegler wrote: >> > Dear all, >> > >> > the final version including all changes received after >> > the one week final call period is now available here: >> > >> > >> http://forge.gridforum.org/sf/docman/do/downloadDocument/proje >> cts.graap-wg/docman.root.current_drafts/doc6091/48 >> > >> > I will inform the area chairs and the editor that we >> > completed the spec and are ready to move it to the >> > editor's pipeline. >> > >> > >> > Thanks to all contributors of last changes and best regards >> > >> > Wolfgang >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> -- >> graap-wg mailing list >> graap-wg at ogf.org >> http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/graap-wg >> >> > > -- > graap-wg mailing list > graap-wg at ogf.org > http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/graap-wg ------- NEC ???????????? ?????? Toshiyuki Nakata Executive Chief Engineer Central Research Laboratories NEC Corporation +81-44-431-7653 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: WS-AgreementSpecificationDraft-finalfinal1.zip Type: application/x-zip-compressed Size: 139021 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.ogf.org/pipermail/graap-wg/attachments/20070405/83212278/attachment.bin From Wolfgang.Ziegler at scai.fraunhofer.de Wed Apr 4 13:14:13 2007 From: Wolfgang.Ziegler at scai.fraunhofer.de (Wolfgang Ziegler) Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2007 20:14:13 +0200 Subject: [GRAAP-WG] Final version of the spec In-Reply-To: <20070404155041307.00000003984@Wombat> References: <460BBC03.2070303@scai.fraunhofer.de> <4613B068.8080909@battre.de> <20070404155041307.00000003984@Wombat> Message-ID: <4613EAF5.3020400@scai.fraunhofer.de> Hi Stephen, Dominic is right, this inconsistency was already mentioned several times and should have been gone since quite a while. The schema is correct, the descriptive text has to be changed. The second comment of Dominic we will change the description and the schema to make it consistent. We suggest to describe both ServiceName and Name as MANDATORY and change the Schema accordingly. If there is no objection we will make the changes tomorrow morning (11 UTC), upload the new version to the gridforge space and send it to you. Is this ok for you? Best regards Wolfgang Stephen M Pickles schrieb/wrote: > If the group can quickly agree how to fix this > inconsistency, and give me a corrected version, > I could restart the GFSG review once it's done. > > I would not be happy about moving the specification > to proposed recommendation while it possesses known > errors like this one. > > Stephen > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: graap-wg-bounces at ogf.org >> [mailto:graap-wg-bounces at ogf.org] On Behalf Of Dominic Battre >> Sent: 04 April 2007 15:04 >> To: GRAAP-WG >> Subject: Re: [GRAAP-WG] Final version of the spec >> >> Hi. >> >> I guess it might be too late already... I think I have found another >> inconsistency: >> >> According to chapter 9.4 Port Type wsag:Agreement, the >> Agreement has the >> following Resource Properties: wsag:Name, wsag:Id, wsag:Context, and >> wsag:Terms. >> >> The Schema files however use "wsag:AgreementId" instead of "wsag:Id": >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Best regards, >> >> Dominic >> >> >> Wolfgang Ziegler wrote: >>> Dear all, >>> >>> the final version including all changes received after >>> the one week final call period is now available here: >>> >>> >> http://forge.gridforum.org/sf/docman/do/downloadDocument/proje >> cts.graap-wg/docman.root.current_drafts/doc6091/48 >>> I will inform the area chairs and the editor that we >>> completed the spec and are ready to move it to the >>> editor's pipeline. >>> >>> >>> Thanks to all contributors of last changes and best regards >>> >>> Wolfgang >>> >>> >>> >>> >> -- >> graap-wg mailing list >> graap-wg at ogf.org >> http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/graap-wg >> >> > > -- > graap-wg mailing list > graap-wg at ogf.org > http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/graap-wg -- Wolfgang Ziegler www.scai.fraunhofer.de/ziegler.html Fraunhofer-Institute for Algorithms and Scientific Computing (SCAI) Schloss Birlinghoven, D-53754 Sankt Augustin, Germany Tel: +49 2241 14 2258; Fax: +49 2241 14 42258 CoreGRID Network of Excellence www.coregrid.net Collaboration Gateway www.coregrid.net/cg Institute on Resource Management and Scheduling www.coregrid.net/irms From t-nakata at cw.jp.nec.com Wed Apr 4 17:56:58 2007 From: t-nakata at cw.jp.nec.com (t-nakata at cw.jp.nec.com) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2007 07:56:58 +0900 Subject: [GRAAP-WG] Final version of the spec In-Reply-To: References: <460BBC03.2070303@scai.fraunhofer.de> <4613B068.8080909@battre.de> <20070404155041307.00000003984@Wombat> Message-ID: Hi: Somehow or other Wolfgang's email was delayed, so I had sent my previous email before seeing his email. Please ignore my previous email. Best Regards Toshi > Hi: Apologies for posting a large (well 140KB) file to all the group > but it seems I cannot access GridForge > right now. > > Please find attached a **candidate** (ie not final) > to fix the two problems that Dominic pointed out. > > To be on the safe side, I chose AgreementId rather than Id but if people are not happy about it then it can be changed back easily. > > Best Regards > Toshi > >> If the group can quickly agree how to fix this >> inconsistency, and give me a corrected version, >> I could restart the GFSG review once it's done. >> >> I would not be happy about moving the specification >> to proposed recommendation while it possesses known >> errors like this one. >> >> Stephen >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: graap-wg-bounces at ogf.org >>> [mailto:graap-wg-bounces at ogf.org] On Behalf Of Dominic Battre >>> Sent: 04 April 2007 15:04 >>> To: GRAAP-WG >>> Subject: Re: [GRAAP-WG] Final version of the spec >>> >>> Hi. >>> >>> I guess it might be too late already... I think I have found another >>> inconsistency: >>> >>> According to chapter 9.4 Port Type wsag:Agreement, the >>> Agreement has the >>> following Resource Properties: wsag:Name, wsag:Id, wsag:Context, and >>> wsag:Terms. >>> >>> The Schema files however use "wsag:AgreementId" instead of "wsag:Id": >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Best regards, >>> >>> Dominic >>> >>> >>> Wolfgang Ziegler wrote: >>> > Dear all, >>> > >>> > the final version including all changes received after >>> > the one week final call period is now available here: >>> > >>> > >>> http://forge.gridforum.org/sf/docman/do/downloadDocument/proje >>> cts.graap-wg/docman.root.current_drafts/doc6091/48 >>> > >>> > I will inform the area chairs and the editor that we >>> > completed the spec and are ready to move it to the >>> > editor's pipeline. >>> > >>> > >>> > Thanks to all contributors of last changes and best regards >>> > >>> > Wolfgang >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> >>> -- >>> graap-wg mailing list >>> graap-wg at ogf.org >>> http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/graap-wg >>> >>> >> >> -- >> graap-wg mailing list >> graap-wg at ogf.org >> http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/graap-wg > > ------- > NEC ???????????? > ?????? > Toshiyuki Nakata > Executive Chief Engineer > Central Research Laboratories > NEC Corporation > +81-44-431-7653 ------- NEC ???????????? ?????? Toshiyuki Nakata Executive Chief Engineer Central Research Laboratories NEC Corporation +81-44-431-7653 From Stephen.Pickles at manchester.ac.uk Thu Apr 5 04:20:39 2007 From: Stephen.Pickles at manchester.ac.uk (Stephen M Pickles) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2007 10:20:39 +0100 Subject: [GRAAP-WG] Final version of the spec In-Reply-To: <4613EAF5.3020400@scai.fraunhofer.de> References: <460BBC03.2070303@scai.fraunhofer.de> <4613B068.8080909@battre.de><20070404155041307.00000003984@Wombat> <4613EAF5.3020400@scai.fraunhofer.de> Message-ID: <20070405102039222.00000002396@Wombat> That's OK for me. Stephen > -----Original Message----- > From: graap-wg-bounces at ogf.org > [mailto:graap-wg-bounces at ogf.org] On Behalf Of Wolfgang Ziegler > Sent: 04 April 2007 19:14 > To: Stephen.Pickles at manchester.ac.uk > Cc: GRAAP-WG > Subject: Re: [GRAAP-WG] Final version of the spec > > Hi Stephen, > > Dominic is right, this inconsistency was already mentioned > several times and should have been gone since quite a while. > > The schema is correct, the descriptive text has to be changed. > > The second comment of Dominic we will change the description > and the schema to make it consistent. We suggest to describe both > ServiceName and Name as MANDATORY and change the Schema > accordingly. > > If there is no objection we will make the changes tomorrow > morning (11 UTC), upload the new version to the gridforge > space and send it to you. > > Is this ok for you? > > Best regards > > Wolfgang > > > > Stephen M Pickles schrieb/wrote: > > If the group can quickly agree how to fix this > > inconsistency, and give me a corrected version, > > I could restart the GFSG review once it's done. > > > > I would not be happy about moving the specification > > to proposed recommendation while it possesses known > > errors like this one. > > > > Stephen > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: graap-wg-bounces at ogf.org > >> [mailto:graap-wg-bounces at ogf.org] On Behalf Of Dominic Battre > >> Sent: 04 April 2007 15:04 > >> To: GRAAP-WG > >> Subject: Re: [GRAAP-WG] Final version of the spec > >> > >> Hi. > >> > >> I guess it might be too late already... I think I have > found another > >> inconsistency: > >> > >> According to chapter 9.4 Port Type wsag:Agreement, the > >> Agreement has the > >> following Resource Properties: wsag:Name, wsag:Id, > wsag:Context, and > >> wsag:Terms. > >> > >> The Schema files however use "wsag:AgreementId" instead of > "wsag:Id": > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Best regards, > >> > >> Dominic > >> > >> > >> Wolfgang Ziegler wrote: > >>> Dear all, > >>> > >>> the final version including all changes received after > >>> the one week final call period is now available here: > >>> > >>> > >> http://forge.gridforum.org/sf/docman/do/downloadDocument/proje > >> cts.graap-wg/docman.root.current_drafts/doc6091/48 > >>> I will inform the area chairs and the editor that we > >>> completed the spec and are ready to move it to the > >>> editor's pipeline. > >>> > >>> > >>> Thanks to all contributors of last changes and best regards > >>> > >>> Wolfgang > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> -- > >> graap-wg mailing list > >> graap-wg at ogf.org > >> http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/graap-wg > >> > >> > > > > -- > > graap-wg mailing list > > graap-wg at ogf.org > > http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/graap-wg > > -- > Wolfgang Ziegler www.scai.fraunhofer.de/ziegler.html > Fraunhofer-Institute for Algorithms and Scientific > Computing (SCAI) > Schloss Birlinghoven, D-53754 Sankt Augustin, Germany > Tel: +49 2241 14 2258; Fax: +49 2241 14 42258 > > CoreGRID Network of Excellence www.coregrid.net > Collaboration Gateway www.coregrid.net/cg > Institute on Resource Management and Scheduling > www.coregrid.net/irms > -- > graap-wg mailing list > graap-wg at ogf.org > http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/graap-wg > > From Wolfgang.Ziegler at scai.fraunhofer.de Thu Apr 5 05:09:58 2007 From: Wolfgang.Ziegler at scai.fraunhofer.de (Wolfgang Ziegler) Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2007 12:09:58 +0200 Subject: [GRAAP-WG] Final version of the spec In-Reply-To: <4613EAF5.3020400@scai.fraunhofer.de> References: <460BBC03.2070303@scai.fraunhofer.de> <4613B068.8080909@battre.de> <20070404155041307.00000003984@Wombat> <4613EAF5.3020400@scai.fraunhofer.de> Message-ID: <4614CAF6.3050106@scai.fraunhofer.de> Dear all, we modified the spec document according to the comments of Dominic. The new version is uploaded, change tracking on. The new version can be found here: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/docman/do/downloadDocument/projects.graap-wg/docman.root.current_drafts/doc6091/49 Best regards Wolfgang Wolfgang Ziegler schrieb/wrote: > Hi Stephen, > > Dominic is right, this inconsistency was already mentioned > several times and should have been gone since quite a while. > > The schema is correct, the descriptive text has to be changed. > > The second comment of Dominic we will change the description > and the schema to make it consistent. We suggest to describe both > ServiceName and Name as MANDATORY and change the Schema > accordingly. > > If there is no objection we will make the changes tomorrow > morning (11 UTC), upload the new version to the gridforge > space and send it to you. > > Is this ok for you? > > Best regards > > Wolfgang > > > > Stephen M Pickles schrieb/wrote: >> If the group can quickly agree how to fix this >> inconsistency, and give me a corrected version, >> I could restart the GFSG review once it's done. >> >> I would not be happy about moving the specification >> to proposed recommendation while it possesses known >> errors like this one. >> >> Stephen >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: graap-wg-bounces at ogf.org [mailto:graap-wg-bounces at ogf.org] On >>> Behalf Of Dominic Battre >>> Sent: 04 April 2007 15:04 >>> To: GRAAP-WG >>> Subject: Re: [GRAAP-WG] Final version of the spec >>> >>> Hi. >>> >>> I guess it might be too late already... I think I have found another >>> inconsistency: >>> >>> According to chapter 9.4 Port Type wsag:Agreement, the Agreement has the >>> following Resource Properties: wsag:Name, wsag:Id, wsag:Context, and >>> wsag:Terms. >>> >>> The Schema files however use "wsag:AgreementId" instead of "wsag:Id": >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Best regards, >>> >>> Dominic >>> >>> >>> Wolfgang Ziegler wrote: >>>> Dear all, >>>> >>>> the final version including all changes received after >>>> the one week final call period is now available here: >>>> >>>> >>> http://forge.gridforum.org/sf/docman/do/downloadDocument/proje >>> cts.graap-wg/docman.root.current_drafts/doc6091/48 >>>> I will inform the area chairs and the editor that we >>>> completed the spec and are ready to move it to the >>>> editor's pipeline. >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks to all contributors of last changes and best regards >>>> >>>> Wolfgang >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> -- >>> graap-wg mailing list >>> graap-wg at ogf.org >>> http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/graap-wg >>> >>> >> >> -- >> graap-wg mailing list >> graap-wg at ogf.org >> http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/graap-wg > -- Wolfgang Ziegler www.scai.fraunhofer.de/ziegler.html Fraunhofer-Institute for Algorithms and Scientific Computing (SCAI) Schloss Birlinghoven, D-53754 Sankt Augustin, Germany Tel: +49 2241 14 2258; Fax: +49 2241 14 42258 CoreGRID Network of Excellence www.coregrid.net Collaboration Gateway www.coregrid.net/cg Institute on Resource Management and Scheduling www.coregrid.net/irms From Wolfgang.Ziegler at scai.fraunhofer.de Thu Apr 5 09:12:54 2007 From: Wolfgang.Ziegler at scai.fraunhofer.de (Wolfgang Ziegler) Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2007 16:12:54 +0200 Subject: [GRAAP-WG] Final version of the spec In-Reply-To: <4614CAF6.3050106@scai.fraunhofer.de> References: <460BBC03.2070303@scai.fraunhofer.de> <4613B068.8080909@battre.de> <20070404155041307.00000003984@Wombat> <4613EAF5.3020400@scai.fraunhofer.de> <4614CAF6.3050106@scai.fraunhofer.de> Message-ID: <461503E6.7050806@scai.fraunhofer.de> Dear all, as there were no further comments on the last changes I did sent the final version to Stephen to forward it to the editor. It can be found here https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/docman/do/downloadDocument/projects.graap-wg/docman.root.current_drafts/doc6091/50 Best regards & happy Easter Wolfgang Wolfgang Ziegler schrieb/wrote: > Dear all, > > we modified the spec document according to the comments > of Dominic. The new version is uploaded, change tracking on. > > The new version can be found here: > > https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/docman/do/downloadDocument/projects.graap-wg/docman.root.current_drafts/doc6091/49 > > > Best regards > > Wolfgang > > > Wolfgang Ziegler schrieb/wrote: >> Hi Stephen, >> >> Dominic is right, this inconsistency was already mentioned >> several times and should have been gone since quite a while. >> >> The schema is correct, the descriptive text has to be changed. >> >> The second comment of Dominic we will change the description >> and the schema to make it consistent. We suggest to describe both >> ServiceName and Name as MANDATORY and change the Schema >> accordingly. >> >> If there is no objection we will make the changes tomorrow >> morning (11 UTC), upload the new version to the gridforge >> space and send it to you. >> >> Is this ok for you? >> >> Best regards >> >> Wolfgang >> >> >> >> Stephen M Pickles schrieb/wrote: >>> If the group can quickly agree how to fix this >>> inconsistency, and give me a corrected version, >>> I could restart the GFSG review once it's done. >>> >>> I would not be happy about moving the specification >>> to proposed recommendation while it possesses known >>> errors like this one. >>> >>> Stephen >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: graap-wg-bounces at ogf.org [mailto:graap-wg-bounces at ogf.org] On >>>> Behalf Of Dominic Battre >>>> Sent: 04 April 2007 15:04 >>>> To: GRAAP-WG >>>> Subject: Re: [GRAAP-WG] Final version of the spec >>>> >>>> Hi. >>>> >>>> I guess it might be too late already... I think I have found another >>>> inconsistency: >>>> >>>> According to chapter 9.4 Port Type wsag:Agreement, the Agreement has >>>> the >>>> following Resource Properties: wsag:Name, wsag:Id, wsag:Context, and >>>> wsag:Terms. >>>> >>>> The Schema files however use "wsag:AgreementId" instead of "wsag:Id": >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Best regards, >>>> >>>> Dominic >>>> >>>> >>>> Wolfgang Ziegler wrote: >>>>> Dear all, >>>>> >>>>> the final version including all changes received after >>>>> the one week final call period is now available here: >>>>> >>>>> >>>> http://forge.gridforum.org/sf/docman/do/downloadDocument/proje >>>> cts.graap-wg/docman.root.current_drafts/doc6091/48 >>>>> I will inform the area chairs and the editor that we >>>>> completed the spec and are ready to move it to the >>>>> editor's pipeline. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Thanks to all contributors of last changes and best regards >>>>> >>>>> Wolfgang >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> graap-wg mailing list >>>> graap-wg at ogf.org >>>> http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/graap-wg >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> graap-wg mailing list >>> graap-wg at ogf.org >>> http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/graap-wg >> > -- Wolfgang Ziegler www.scai.fraunhofer.de/ziegler.html Fraunhofer-Institute for Algorithms and Scientific Computing (SCAI) Schloss Birlinghoven, D-53754 Sankt Augustin, Germany Tel: +49 2241 14 2258; Fax: +49 2241 14 42258 CoreGRID Network of Excellence www.coregrid.net Collaboration Gateway www.coregrid.net/cg Institute on Resource Management and Scheduling www.coregrid.net/irms From t-nakata at cw.jp.nec.com Fri Apr 6 02:35:01 2007 From: t-nakata at cw.jp.nec.com (Toshiyuki Nakata) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2007 16:35:01 +0900 Subject: [GRAAP-WG] OGF 20 Sessions In-Reply-To: <461503E6.7050806@scai.fraunhofer.de> References: <460BBC03.2070303@scai.fraunhofer.de> <4613B068.8080909@battre.de><20070404155041307.00000003984@Wombat><4613EAF5.3020400@scai.fraunhofer.de><4614CAF6.3050106@scai.fraunhofer.de> <461503E6.7050806@scai.fraunhofer.de> Message-ID: <00bb01c7781e$1630d700$b084380a@Sakurai> Hi.. I suppose people are enjoying the Easter Holidays but anyway... The OGF 20 detailed session schedule is available at http://www.ogf.org/gf/event_schedule/?event_id=7 It seems the three GRAAP sessions are scheduled on the first three sessions on 7th May and the related Dynamic SLAs workshop is scheduled on the afternoon of 8th May Best Regards Toshi ----- Toshiyuki Nakata ?????? Executive Chief Engineer, Central Research Lab. NEC 1753, Shimonumabe, Nakahara-Ku, Kawasaki,Kanagawa 211-8666,Japan Tel +81-44-431-7653 (NEC Internal 22-60035) Fax +81-44-431-7609 (NEC Internal 22-60509) From Stephen.Pickles at manchester.ac.uk Fri Apr 6 11:10:24 2007 From: Stephen.Pickles at manchester.ac.uk (Stephen M Pickles) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2007 17:10:24 +0100 Subject: [GRAAP-WG] updated WS-Agreement version for the editor In-Reply-To: <4615031A.40304@scai.fraunhofer.de> References: <4615031A.40304@scai.fraunhofer.de> Message-ID: <20070406171024895.00000003688@Wombat> Dear Wolfgang, I have updated the tracker in the editor pipeline. The GFSG review is continuing using the corrected version. Thanks, Stephen > -----Original Message----- > From: Wolfgang Ziegler [mailto:Wolfgang.Ziegler at scai.fraunhofer.de] > Sent: 05 April 2007 15:10 > To: Stephen.Pickles at manchester.ac.uk > Subject: updated WS-Agreement version for the editor > > Dear Stephen, > > as there were no further comments wrt the last changes I > uploaded the document to the gridforge space. > > Could you please forward it to the editor again. > > Thanks & happy Easter > > Wolfgang > > -- > Wolfgang Ziegler www.scai.fraunhofer.de/ziegler.html > Fraunhofer-Institute for Algorithms and Scientific > Computing (SCAI) > Schloss Birlinghoven, D-53754 Sankt Augustin, Germany > Tel: +49 2241 14 2258; Fax: +49 2241 14 42258 > > CoreGRID Network of Excellence www.coregrid.net > Collaboration Gateway www.coregrid.net/cg > Institute on Resource Management and Scheduling > www.coregrid.net/irms > > From jim_pruyne at hp.com Wed Apr 11 01:18:36 2007 From: jim_pruyne at hp.com (Jim Pruyne) Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 01:18:36 -0500 Subject: [GRAAP-WG] telecon on April 11 Message-ID: <461C7DBC.4050502@hp.com> All, We're scheduled for our next telecon on April 11. We'll continue at the US Central time of 9:00. As daylight savings time seems to be different, I'm not sure of the exact times everywhere. Here's what they have been in the past: 9:00AM Central Standard Time US (GMT-0500) which should be: 10:00AM Eastern Standard Time US 1600 Germany 2300 Japan The current dialin numbers are: Toll number: 8324452343 Toll free number: 8664809967 Conference code: 8578310 Best, --- Jim From jim_pruyne at hp.com Wed Apr 11 09:32:54 2007 From: jim_pruyne at hp.com (Jim Pruyne) Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 09:32:54 -0500 Subject: [GRAAP-WG] minutes from Apr. 11 telecon Message-ID: <461CF196.2040705@hp.com> The minutes from today's meeting are attached. We will have our next telecon at the usually scheduled time on Apr. 25 in two weeks. Because WS-Agreement has been submitted, we will use the upcoming calls to work on the profile for interoperability. We'd like broader participation in the calls based on this topic. --- Jim -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: Apr1107-minutes.txt Url: http://www.ogf.org/pipermail/graap-wg/attachments/20070411/8db5ea10/attachment.txt From Wolfgang.Ziegler at scai.fraunhofer.de Wed Apr 25 05:55:17 2007 From: Wolfgang.Ziegler at scai.fraunhofer.de (Wolfgang Ziegler) Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 12:55:17 +0200 Subject: [GRAAP-WG] telecon on April 25 Message-ID: <462F3395.4060403@scai.fraunhofer.de> We will have our next telecon at the usually scheduled time today: 9:00AM Central Standard Time US (GMT-0500) which should be: 10:00AM Eastern Standard Time US 1600 Germany 2300 Japan The current dialin numbers are: Toll number: 8324452343 Toll free number: 8664809967 Conference code: 8578310 Because WS-Agreement has been submitted, we will use the upcoming calls to work on the profile for interoperability. We'd like broader participation in the calls based on this topic. Best regards Wolfgang -- Wolfgang Ziegler www.scai.fraunhofer.de/ziegler.html Fraunhofer-Institute for Algorithms and Scientific Computing (SCAI) Schloss Birlinghoven, D-53754 Sankt Augustin, Germany Tel: +49 2241 14 2258; Fax: +49 2241 14 42258 CoreGRID Network of Excellence www.coregrid.net Collaboration Gateway www.coregrid.net/cg Institute on Resource Management and Scheduling www.coregrid.net/irms From Wolfgang.Ziegler at scai.fraunhofer.de Wed Apr 25 09:21:02 2007 From: Wolfgang.Ziegler at scai.fraunhofer.de (Wolfgang Ziegler) Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 16:21:02 +0200 Subject: [GRAAP-WG] minutes from Apr. 25 telecon Message-ID: <462F63CE.3070103@scai.fraunhofer.de> As nobody joined the conference call today I terminated the conference after 15 minutes. The next call would be during OGF 20 so we drop this one as usual and resume the bi-weekly calls May 23. Hope to see some of you in Manchester. Wolfgang -- Wolfgang Ziegler www.scai.fraunhofer.de/ziegler.html Fraunhofer-Institute for Algorithms and Scientific Computing (SCAI) Schloss Birlinghoven, D-53754 Sankt Augustin, Germany Tel: +49 2241 14 2258; Fax: +49 2241 14 42258 CoreGRID Network of Excellence www.coregrid.net Collaboration Gateway www.coregrid.net/cg Institute on Resource Management and Scheduling www.coregrid.net/irms From jim_pruyne at hp.com Fri Apr 27 14:22:32 2007 From: jim_pruyne at hp.com (Jim Pruyne) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 14:22:32 -0500 Subject: [GRAAP-WG] [Fwd: [ogsa-wg] Proposed agenda for SLT discussion] Message-ID: <46324D78.9030300@hp.com> I see from this note that OSGA is considering SLA's and agreements. I'll be unable to attend this session as I will be travelling. Is anyone from GRAAP able and interested in attending? --- Jim -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [ogsa-wg] Proposed agenda for SLT discussion Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 07:15:16 -0400 From: Andrew Grimshaw To: 'ogsa-wg' Service Level Terms ? Monday 4:00-5:30 At the last OGSA F2F we discussed the need to address QoS/SLA?s in OGSA. The first step is to define what is meant, to determine use cases, and therefore requirements. It was noted that just defining terms is difficult and very domain specific and that solving the general problem, for all classes of service, is an open question. We therefore decided to begin with a short session focused on two specific OGSA services: ByteIO and BES. In this session we will introduce the problem, discuss the roles of WS-Agreement and JSDL, and define prototype (strawman) definitions of SLT?s for both services. Proposed Agenda: Agenda bashing Present problem Present examples for ByteIO and BES Discuss role of WS-Agreement and JSDL Next steps and action items -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: file:///C:/DOCUME~1/PRUYNE/LOCALS~1/TEMP/nsmail.txt Url: http://www.ogf.org/pipermail/graap-wg/attachments/20070427/4856f225/attachment.txt From t-nakata at cw.jp.nec.com Sun Apr 29 03:56:31 2007 From: t-nakata at cw.jp.nec.com (t-nakata at cw.jp.nec.com) Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 17:56:31 +0900 Subject: [GRAAP-WG] [Fwd: [ogsa-wg] Proposed agenda for SLT discussion] In-Reply-To: <46324D78.9030300@hp.com> References: <46324D78.9030300@hp.com> Message-ID: > and BES. In this session we will introduce the problem, discuss the > roles of WS-Agreement and JSDL, and define prototype (strawman) > definitions of SLT?s for both services. Hi: I'll participate but I hope the other people would also.. (I am not so good at sales pitch ;-)) > I see from this note that OSGA is considering SLA's and agreements. I'll > be unable to attend this session as I will be travelling. Is anyone from > GRAAP able and interested in attending? > > --- Jim > Best Regards Toshi > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: [ogsa-wg] Proposed agenda for SLT discussion > Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 07:15:16 -0400 > From: Andrew Grimshaw > To: 'ogsa-wg' > > > Service Level Terms – Monday 4:00-5:30 > > At the last OGSA F2F we discussed the need to address QoS/SLA?s in OGSA. > The first step is to define what is meant, to determine use cases, and > therefore requirements. It was noted that just defining terms is > difficult and very domain specific and that solving the general problem, > for all classes of service, is an open question. We therefore decided to > begin with a short session focused on two specific OGSA services: ByteIO > and BES. In this session we will introduce the problem, discuss the > roles of WS-Agreement and JSDL, and define prototype (strawman) > definitions of SLT?s for both services. > > Proposed Agenda: > > Agenda bashing > > Present problem > > Present examples for ByteIO and BES > > Discuss role of WS-Agreement and JSDL > > Next steps and action items > ------- NEC ???????????? ?????? Toshiyuki Nakata Executive Chief Engineer Central Research Laboratories NEC Corporation +81-44-431-7653 From t-nakata at cw.jp.nec.com Sun Apr 29 04:54:13 2007 From: t-nakata at cw.jp.nec.com (t-nakata at cw.jp.nec.com) Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 18:54:13 +0900 Subject: [GRAAP-WG] [ogsa-wg] Proposed agenda for SLT discussion In-Reply-To: <20070427111518.B384A11B075@fork4.mail.virginia.edu> References: <20070427111518.B384A11B075@fork4.mail.virginia.edu> Message-ID: Hi: My name is Toshiyuki Nakata. One of the members of the GRAAP WG. I am hoping (if the GRAAP group mambers agree) that we can try to to describe how WS-Agreement can contribute to OGSA BES etc. So.. If you could give me a 10 minute slot in the session, I can try to point out how WS-Agreement TOGETHER WITH JSDL can can contribute to this area. ANd try to?answer any more problems we have.... Unfortunately, my English bandwidth is somehow limited, so I would need to ask some people to be patient... (Ane help/patience is greatly appreciated..) Best Regards Toshi #Jim. Wolfgang et al,?please comment as necessary.. > Service Level Terms - Monday 4:00-5:30 > > > > At the last OGSA F2F we discussed the need to address QoS/SLA's in OGSA. The > first step is to define what is meant, to determine use cases, and therefore > requirements. It was noted that just defining terms is difficult and very > domain specific and that solving the general problem, for all classes of > service, is an open question. We therefore decided to begin with a short > session focused on two specific OGSA services: ByteIO and BES. In this > session we will introduce the problem, discuss the roles of WS-Agreement and > JSDL, and define prototype (strawman) definitions of SLT's for both > services. > > > > Proposed Agenda: > > Agenda bashing > > Present problem > > Present examples for ByteIO and BES > > Discuss role of WS-Agreement and JSDL > > Next steps and action items > > > ------- NEC ???????????? ?????? Toshiyuki Nakata Executive Chief Engineer Central Research Laboratories NEC Corporation +81-44-431-7653 From t-nakata at cw.jp.nec.com Mon Apr 30 05:03:07 2007 From: t-nakata at cw.jp.nec.com (t-nakata at cw.jp.nec.com) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 19:03:07 +0900 Subject: [GRAAP-WG] [Fwd: [ogsa-wg] Proposed agenda for SLT discussion] In-Reply-To: References: <46324D78.9030300@hp.com> Message-ID: Hi again: Given the fact that the main interest in OGSA is to discuss about the SLA's (ie, more on the Guarantee Terms) it would be nice if somebody who has real example of those usage would also be there. (In our project, we used WS-Agreement more for composition/decomposition of complex jobs.) Best Regards Toshi >> and BES. In this session we will introduce the problem, discuss the >> roles of WS-Agreement and JSDL, and define prototype (strawman) >> definitions of SLT?s for both services. > > Hi: I'll participate but I hope the other people would also.. > (I am not so good at sales pitch ;-)) > >> I see from this note that OSGA is considering SLA's and agreements. I'll >> be unable to attend this session as I will be travelling. Is anyone from >> GRAAP able and interested in attending? >> >> --- Jim >> > > Best Regards > Toshi > >> -------- Original Message -------- >> Subject: [ogsa-wg] Proposed agenda for SLT discussion >> Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 07:15:16 -0400 >> From: Andrew Grimshaw >> To: 'ogsa-wg' >> >> >> Service Level Terms – Monday 4:00-5:30 >> >> At the last OGSA F2F we discussed the need to address QoS/SLA?s in OGSA. >> The first step is to define what is meant, to determine use cases, and >> therefore requirements. It was noted that just defining terms is >> difficult and very domain specific and that solving the general problem, >> for all classes of service, is an open question. We therefore decided to >> begin with a short session focused on two specific OGSA services: ByteIO >> and BES. In this session we will introduce the problem, discuss the >> roles of WS-Agreement and JSDL, and define prototype (strawman) >> definitions of SLT?s for both services. >> >> Proposed Agenda: >> >> Agenda bashing >> >> Present problem >> >> Present examples for ByteIO and BES >> >> Discuss role of WS-Agreement and JSDL >> >> Next steps and action items >> > > ------- > NEC ???????????? > ?????? > Toshiyuki Nakata > Executive Chief Engineer > Central Research Laboratories > NEC Corporation > +81-44-431-7653 ------- NEC ???????????? ?????? Toshiyuki Nakata Executive Chief Engineer Central Research Laboratories NEC Corporation +81-44-431-7653