From jim_pruyne at hp.com Wed Nov 8 00:25:10 2006 From: jim_pruyne at hp.com (Jim Pruyne) Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2006 00:25:10 -0600 Subject: [GRAAP-WG] telecon on 11/8 Message-ID: <45517846.1080702@hp.com> We'll hold a telecon on November 8. The US has changed to daylight savings time since the last call, so some times may have been adjusted. On the call, we can discuss if this time change leads us to choosing a different time for subsequent meetings. For now, we'll keep the same time in the US, and I'm doing my best to convert to other times below. If my conversions are incorrect, I apologize. 9:00AM Central Standard Time US (GMT-0600) which should be: 10:00AM Eastern Standard Time US 1500 UK(?) 1600 Germany(?) 0000 Japan (sorry Toshi) Phone Number: 866-673-8466 in the US. 702-477-6031 for those outside the US. Conference code #8578310. --- Jim From t-nakata at cw.jp.nec.com Wed Nov 8 07:24:58 2006 From: t-nakata at cw.jp.nec.com (t-nakata at cw.jp.nec.com) Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 22:24:58 +0900 Subject: [GRAAP-WG] telecon on 11/8 In-Reply-To: <45517846.1080702@hp.com> References: <45517846.1080702@hp.com> Message-ID: Hi: Due to a heavy loaded day, I just came home now. And I'll try to keep up until the conference begins. But just to be on the safe side, >. On the call, we can discuss if this time change leads us to choosing a >different time for subsequent meetings. As we discussed in Washington DC, to keep the tume favorable to people who are most interested in GRAAP (ie currently in Europe-GB) would be the key i think. And if I'm lazy/tired to not be able to participate, please do understand. One thing that I'd appreciate would be minutes/memo of the telecon no matter how short.. And if someone beside Jim could help in that area, I think it would be nice. best Regards Toshi: ------- NEC ???????????? ?????? Toshiyuki Nakata Executive Chief Engineer Central Research Laboratories NEC Corporation +81-44-431-7653 From jim_pruyne at hp.com Wed Nov 8 09:33:13 2006 From: jim_pruyne at hp.com (Jim Pruyne) Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2006 09:33:13 -0600 Subject: [GRAAP-WG] minutes from Nov. 8 telecon Message-ID: <4551F8B9.5010909@hp.com> Are attached. We'll meet again at the same time in two weeks: Nov. 22. --- Jim -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: Nov0806-minutes.txt Url: http://www.ogf.org/pipermail/graap-wg/attachments/20061108/1e5f015d/attachment.txt From parkinm at cs.man.ac.uk Thu Nov 9 05:16:03 2006 From: parkinm at cs.man.ac.uk (Michael Parkin) Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2006 11:16:03 +0000 Subject: [GRAAP-WG] WS-Agreement link. Message-ID: Hi, A quick one: when I go to... http://www.ggf.org/gf/docs/?public_comment ...and click on the WS-Agreement Specification link I get a 404 message for the link http://www.ggf.org/Public_Comment_Docs/Documents/Oct-2006/WS- AgreementSpecificationDraftFinal_sp_tn_jpver_v2.pdf Is the document available yet? (Mind you, all the links in that column in that page appear broken). Thanks, Michael. From parkinm at cs.man.ac.uk Thu Nov 9 05:43:41 2006 From: parkinm at cs.man.ac.uk (Michael Parkin) Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2006 11:43:41 +0000 Subject: [GRAAP-WG] WS-Agreement link. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sorry, it appears I am living in the past. If I go to: http://www.ogf.org/gf/docs/?public_comment The links work. (Maybe their should be a redirect to the OGF site for people like me?) Michael. On 9 Nov 2006, at 11:16, Michael Parkin wrote: > Hi, > > A quick one: when I go to... > > http://www.ggf.org/gf/docs/?public_comment > > ...and click on the WS-Agreement Specification link I get a 404 > message for the link > > http://www.ggf.org/Public_Comment_Docs/Documents/Oct-2006/WS- > AgreementSpecificationDraftFinal_sp_tn_jpver_v2.pdf > > Is the document available yet? > > (Mind you, all the links in that column in that page appear broken). > > Thanks, > > Michael. From t-nakata at cw.jp.nec.com Mon Nov 20 20:08:03 2006 From: t-nakata at cw.jp.nec.com (Toshiyuki Nakata) Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 11:08:03 +0900 Subject: [GRAAP-WG] New Public Comments List In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <002c01c70d11$e03cbaf0$ab84380a@ISIBASI> Hi. Please find attached the new public comments list. (Currently one post from Donal with various suggestive comments. Thank you very much Donal!) 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Executive Chief Engineer, Central Research Lab. NEC 1753, Shimonumabe, Nakahara-Ku, Kawasaki,Kanagawa 211-8666,Japan Tel +81-44-431-7653 (NEC Internal 22-60035) Fax +81-44-431-7609 (NEC Internal 22-60509) > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: WS-AgreementSpecificationDraftFinal+sp+tn+jpver.6b.zip Type: application/x-zip-compressed Size: 219467 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.ogf.org/pipermail/graap-wg/attachments/20061121/ea486c27/attachment.bin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: PublicComments3-061121a.xls Type: application/vnd.ms-excel Size: 75776 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.ogf.org/pipermail/graap-wg/attachments/20061121/ea486c27/attachment.xls -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Apologies for being a nuisance but > Andreas Savva-san (of Fujitsu Laboratories) has kindly taken care of the TOC > > (Thank you very much Andreas!) so > posting again in case someone else also tries... > Best Regards > Toshi > ----- > Toshiyuki Nakata ?????? > Executive Chief Engineer, Central Research Lab. NEC > 1753, Shimonumabe, Nakahara-Ku, > Kawasaki,Kanagawa 211-8666,Japan > Tel +81-44-431-7653 (NEC Internal 22-60035) > Fax +81-44-431-7609 (NEC Internal 22-60509) > > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> -- >> graap-wg mailing list >> graap-wg at ogf.org >> http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/graap-wg From t-nakata at cw.jp.nec.com Tue Nov 21 05:29:20 2006 From: t-nakata at cw.jp.nec.com (t-nakata at cw.jp.nec.com) Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 20:29:20 +0900 Subject: [GRAAP-WG] New Public Comments List In-Reply-To: <4562DB73.4070300@in.tum.de> References: <00a701c70d43$f911ed20$ab84380a@ISIBASI> <4562DB73.4070300@in.tum.de> Message-ID: Hi Tianchao : Could you please post to the official ML/or the trackers? Best Regards Toshi > Hi, > > As was posted previously in the maillist > (http://www.ogf.org/pipermail/graap-wg/2006-October/000499.html), I > would like to update the current document with the improved WSDL > definition to address several issues. Should I directly work on this > Word file? > > Best regards, > Tianchao Li > > Toshiyuki Nakata wrote: >> Hi? Apologies for being a nuisance but >> Andreas Savva-san (of Fujitsu Laboratories) has kindly taken care of the TOC >> >> (Thank you very much Andreas!) so >> posting again in case someone else also tries... >> Best Regards >> Toshi >> ----- >> Toshiyuki Nakata ?????? >> Executive Chief Engineer, Central Research Lab. NEC >> 1753, Shimonumabe, Nakahara-Ku, >> Kawasaki,Kanagawa 211-8666,Japan >> Tel +81-44-431-7653 (NEC Internal 22-60035) >> Fax +81-44-431-7609 (NEC Internal 22-60509) >> >> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>> -- >>> graap-wg mailing list >>> graap-wg at ogf.org >>> http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/graap-wg ------- NEC ???????????? ?????? Toshiyuki Nakata Executive Chief Engineer Central Research Laboratories NEC Corporation +81-44-431-7653 From lit at in.tum.de Tue Nov 21 05:48:33 2006 From: lit at in.tum.de (Tianchao Li) Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 12:48:33 +0100 Subject: [GRAAP-WG] New Public Comments List In-Reply-To: References: <00a701c70d43$f911ed20$ab84380a@ISIBASI> <4562DB73.4070300@in.tum.de> Message-ID: <4562E791.4020902@in.tum.de> Sure, the recommended improvements was already posted to the maillist (http://www.ogf.org/pipermail/graap-wg/2006-October/000499.html). It has been over a month and nobody seems to reject those improvements, I would like to start to have them documented. Now, the question is of course which is the latest version of the document I should work on as a basis? Best wishes, Tianchao t-nakata at cw.jp.nec.com wrote: > Hi Tianchao : > Could you please post to the official ML/or the trackers? > Best Regards > Toshi > > > >> Hi, >> >> As was posted previously in the maillist >> (http://www.ogf.org/pipermail/graap-wg/2006-October/000499.html), I >> would like to update the current document with the improved WSDL >> definition to address several issues. Should I directly work on this >> Word file? >> >> Best regards, >> Tianchao Li >> >> Toshiyuki Nakata wrote: >> >>> Hi? Apologies for being a nuisance but >>> Andreas Savva-san (of Fujitsu Laboratories) has kindly taken care of the TOC >>> >>> (Thank you very much Andreas!) so >>> posting again in case someone else also tries... >>> Best Regards >>> Toshi >>> ----- >>> Toshiyuki Nakata ?????? >>> Executive Chief Engineer, Central Research Lab. NEC >>> 1753, Shimonumabe, Nakahara-Ku, >>> Kawasaki,Kanagawa 211-8666,Japan >>> Tel +81-44-431-7653 (NEC Internal 22-60035) >>> Fax +81-44-431-7609 (NEC Internal 22-60509) >>> >>> >>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> >>>> -- >>>> graap-wg mailing list >>>> graap-wg at ogf.org >>>> http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/graap-wg >>>> > > ------- > NEC ???????????? > ?????? > Toshiyuki Nakata > Executive Chief Engineer > Central Research Laboratories > NEC Corporation > +81-44-431-7653 > > From Wolfgang.Ziegler at scai.fraunhofer.de Tue Nov 21 06:22:23 2006 From: Wolfgang.Ziegler at scai.fraunhofer.de (Wolfgang Ziegler) Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 13:22:23 +0100 Subject: [GRAAP-WG] New Public Comments List In-Reply-To: <4562E791.4020902@in.tum.de> References: <00a701c70d43$f911ed20$ab84380a@ISIBASI> <4562DB73.4070300@in.tum.de> <4562E791.4020902@in.tum.de> Message-ID: <4562EF7F.6060300@scai.fraunhofer.de> Hi Tianchao, the time you did sent the the WSDL the spec was already frozen except for editorial changes. As Toshi wrote you should post the changes as comment to the tracker. The public comment period ends end of November. You should use the version of the spec as base that is used for the public comments: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/sfmain/do/downloadAttachment/projects.ggf-editor/tracker.submit_ggf_draft/artf3388?id=atch4282 Best regards Wolfgang Tianchao Li schrieb: > Sure, the recommended improvements was already posted to the maillist > (http://www.ogf.org/pipermail/graap-wg/2006-October/000499.html). It has > been over a month and nobody seems to reject those improvements, I would > like to start to have them documented. Now, the question is of course > which is the latest version of the document I should work on as a basis? > > Best wishes, > Tianchao > > t-nakata at cw.jp.nec.com wrote: >> Hi Tianchao : >> Could you please post to the official ML/or the trackers? >> Best Regards >> Toshi >> >> >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> As was posted previously in the maillist >>> (http://www.ogf.org/pipermail/graap-wg/2006-October/000499.html), I >>> would like to update the current document with the improved WSDL >>> definition to address several issues. Should I directly work on this >>> Word file? >>> >>> Best regards, >>> Tianchao Li >>> >>> Toshiyuki Nakata wrote: >>> >>>> Hi? Apologies for being a nuisance but >>>> Andreas Savva-san (of Fujitsu Laboratories) has kindly taken care of the TOC >>>> >>>> (Thank you very much Andreas!) so >>>> posting again in case someone else also tries... >>>> Best Regards >>>> Toshi >>>> ----- >>>> Toshiyuki Nakata ?????? >>>> Executive Chief Engineer, Central Research Lab. NEC >>>> 1753, Shimonumabe, Nakahara-Ku, >>>> Kawasaki,Kanagawa 211-8666,Japan >>>> Tel +81-44-431-7653 (NEC Internal 22-60035) >>>> Fax +81-44-431-7609 (NEC Internal 22-60509) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> graap-wg mailing list >>>>> graap-wg at ogf.org >>>>> http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/graap-wg >>>>> >> ------- >> NEC ???????????? >> ?????? >> Toshiyuki Nakata >> Executive Chief Engineer >> Central Research Laboratories >> NEC Corporation >> +81-44-431-7653 >> >> > > -- > graap-wg mailing list > graap-wg at ogf.org > http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/graap-wg -- Wolfgang Ziegler www.scai.fraunhofer.de/ziegler.html Fraunhofer-Institute for Algorithms and Scientific Computing (SCAI) Schloss Birlinghoven, D-53754 Sankt Augustin, Germany Tel: +49 2241 14 2258; Fax: +49 2241 14 42258 CoreGRID Network of Excellence www.coregrid.net Collaboration Gateway www.coregrid.net/cg Institute on Resource Management and Scheduling www.coregrid.net/irms -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature Size: 2093 bytes Desc: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Url : http://www.ogf.org/pipermail/graap-wg/attachments/20061121/21a8680c/attachment.bin From lit at in.tum.de Tue Nov 21 07:53:09 2006 From: lit at in.tum.de (Tianchao Li) Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 14:53:09 +0100 Subject: [GRAAP-WG] New Public Comments List In-Reply-To: <4562EF7F.6060300@scai.fraunhofer.de> References: <00a701c70d43$f911ed20$ab84380a@ISIBASI> <4562DB73.4070300@in.tum.de> <4562E791.4020902@in.tum.de> <4562EF7F.6060300@scai.fraunhofer.de> Message-ID: <456304C5.7020106@in.tum.de> The changes only improves specific details of WSDL and not affecting the other part of the specification document (kind of editorial changes?). But I was not sure whether I should provide the updated WSDLs as separate files or directly update the WSDL in the word file. In fact, the my post to the maillist on Oct. 5th already contains the updated WSDLs, and nobody objects these improvements but still nobody has committed to change the word file accordingly. That's why I'm proposing to change the word file directly. Regards, Tianchao Wolfgang Ziegler wrote: > Hi Tianchao, > > the time you did sent the the WSDL the spec was already frozen except > for editorial changes. As Toshi wrote you should post the changes > as comment to the tracker. The public comment period ends end of November. > You should use the version of the spec as base that is used for > the public comments: > > https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/sfmain/do/downloadAttachment/projects.ggf-editor/tracker.submit_ggf_draft/artf3388?id=atch4282 > > > Best regards > > Wolfgang > > > > Tianchao Li schrieb: > >> Sure, the recommended improvements was already posted to the maillist >> (http://www.ogf.org/pipermail/graap-wg/2006-October/000499.html). It has >> been over a month and nobody seems to reject those improvements, I would >> like to start to have them documented. Now, the question is of course >> which is the latest version of the document I should work on as a basis? >> >> Best wishes, >> Tianchao >> >> t-nakata at cw.jp.nec.com wrote: >> >>> Hi Tianchao : >>> Could you please post to the official ML/or the trackers? >>> Best Regards >>> Toshi >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> As was posted previously in the maillist >>>> (http://www.ogf.org/pipermail/graap-wg/2006-October/000499.html), I >>>> would like to update the current document with the improved WSDL >>>> definition to address several issues. Should I directly work on this >>>> Word file? >>>> >>>> Best regards, >>>> Tianchao Li >>>> >>>> Toshiyuki Nakata wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hi? Apologies for being a nuisance but >>>>> Andreas Savva-san (of Fujitsu Laboratories) has kindly taken care of the TOC >>>>> >>>>> (Thank you very much Andreas!) so >>>>> posting again in case someone else also tries... >>>>> Best Regards >>>>> Toshi >>>>> ----- >>>>> Toshiyuki Nakata ?????? >>>>> Executive Chief Engineer, Central Research Lab. NEC >>>>> 1753, Shimonumabe, Nakahara-Ku, >>>>> Kawasaki,Kanagawa 211-8666,Japan >>>>> Tel +81-44-431-7653 (NEC Internal 22-60035) >>>>> Fax +81-44-431-7609 (NEC Internal 22-60509) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> graap-wg mailing list >>>>>> graap-wg at ogf.org >>>>>> http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/graap-wg >>>>>> >>>>>> >>> ------- >>> NEC ???????????? >>> ?????? >>> Toshiyuki Nakata >>> Executive Chief Engineer >>> Central Research Laboratories >>> NEC Corporation >>> +81-44-431-7653 >>> >>> >>> >> -- >> graap-wg mailing list >> graap-wg at ogf.org >> http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/graap-wg >> > > From t-nakata at cw.jp.nec.com Tue Nov 21 12:18:48 2006 From: t-nakata at cw.jp.nec.com (t-nakata at cw.jp.nec.com) Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 03:18:48 +0900 Subject: [GRAAP-WG] New Public Comments List In-Reply-To: <456304C5.7020106@in.tum.de> References: <00a701c70d43$f911ed20$ab84380a@ISIBASI> <4562DB73.4070300@in.tum.de> <4562E791.4020902@in.tum.de> <4562EF7F.6060300@scai.fraunhofer.de> <456304C5.7020106@in.tum.de> Message-ID: Tianchao: Please repost your proposal to https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/discussion/do/listTopics/projects.ggf-editor/discussion.rec_ws_agreement_spec_0 (I think either an updated WSDL file or a file with just the changes should be fine.) That way, it will be officially recorded so that it can be tracked. Best Regards Toshi > The changes only improves specific details of WSDL and not affecting the > other part of the specification document (kind of editorial changes?). > But I was not sure whether I should provide the updated WSDLs as > separate files or directly update the WSDL in the word file. In fact, > the my post to the maillist on Oct. 5th already contains the updated > WSDLs, and nobody objects these improvements but still nobody has > committed to change the word file accordingly. That's why I'm proposing > to change the word file directly. > > Regards, > Tianchao > > Wolfgang Ziegler wrote: >> Hi Tianchao, >> >> the time you did sent the the WSDL the spec was already frozen except >> for editorial changes. As Toshi wrote you should post the changes >> as comment to the tracker. The public comment period ends end of November. >> You should use the version of the spec as base that is used for >> the public comments: >> >> https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/sfmain/do/downloadAttachment/projects.ggf-editor/tracker.submit_ggf_draft/artf3388?id=atch4282 >> >> >> Best regards >> >> Wolfgang >> >> >> >> Tianchao Li schrieb: >> >>> Sure, the recommended improvements was already posted to the maillist >>> (http://www.ogf.org/pipermail/graap-wg/2006-October/000499.html). It has >>> been over a month and nobody seems to reject those improvements, I would >>> like to start to have them documented. Now, the question is of course >>> which is the latest version of the document I should work on as a basis? >>> >>> Best wishes, >>> Tianchao >>> >>> t-nakata at cw.jp.nec.com wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Tianchao : >>>> Could you please post to the official ML/or the trackers? >>>> Best Regards >>>> Toshi >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> As was posted previously in the maillist >>>>> (http://www.ogf.org/pipermail/graap-wg/2006-October/000499.html), I >>>>> would like to update the current document with the improved WSDL >>>>> definition to address several issues. Should I directly work on this >>>>> Word file? >>>>> >>>>> Best regards, >>>>> Tianchao Li >>>>> >>>>> Toshiyuki Nakata wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Hi? Apologies for being a nuisance but >>>>>> Andreas Savva-san (of Fujitsu Laboratories) has kindly taken care of the TOC >>>>>> >>>>>> (Thank you very much Andreas!) so >>>>>> posting again in case someone else also tries... >>>>>> Best Regards >>>>>> Toshi >>>>>> ----- >>>>>> Toshiyuki Nakata ?????? >>>>>> Executive Chief Engineer, Central Research Lab. NEC >>>>>> 1753, Shimonumabe, Nakahara-Ku, >>>>>> Kawasaki,Kanagawa 211-8666,Japan >>>>>> Tel +81-44-431-7653 (NEC Internal 22-60035) >>>>>> Fax +81-44-431-7609 (NEC Internal 22-60509) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> graap-wg mailing list >>>>>>> graap-wg at ogf.org >>>>>>> http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/graap-wg >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> ------- >>>> NEC ???????????? >>>> ?????? >>>> Toshiyuki Nakata >>>> Executive Chief Engineer >>>> Central Research Laboratories >>>> NEC Corporation >>>> +81-44-431-7653 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> -- >>> graap-wg mailing list >>> graap-wg at ogf.org >>> http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/graap-wg >>> >> >> > > -- > graap-wg mailing list > graap-wg at ogf.org > http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/graap-wg ------- NEC ???????????? ?????? Toshiyuki Nakata Executive Chief Engineer Central Research Laboratories NEC Corporation +81-44-431-7653 From jim_pruyne at hp.com Tue Nov 21 17:43:30 2006 From: jim_pruyne at hp.com (Jim Pruyne) Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 17:43:30 -0600 Subject: [GRAAP-WG] telecon on 11/22 Message-ID: <45638F22.2020408@hp.com> We'll hold a telecon on November 22. On the last call, we decided to keep the same time in the US even after the daylight savings time change, and I'm doing my best to convert to other times below. If my conversions are incorrect, I apologize, and let me know so I can correct on future messages. 9:00AM Central Standard Time US (GMT-0600) which should be: 10:00AM Eastern Standard Time US 1500 UK(?) 1600 Germany(?) 0000 Japan (sorry Toshi) Phone Number: 866-673-8466 in the US. 702-477-6031 for those outside the US. Conference code #8578310. --- Jim From lit at in.tum.de Wed Nov 22 09:38:05 2006 From: lit at in.tum.de (Tianchao Li) Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 16:38:05 +0100 Subject: [GRAAP-WG] telecon on 11/22 In-Reply-To: <45638F22.2020408@hp.com> References: <45638F22.2020408@hp.com> Message-ID: <45646EDD.3070100@in.tum.de> Hi, Is anybody there by the telecon? "The conference has not been initiated ... (music) ...." Best Regards, Tianchao Jim Pruyne wrote: > We'll hold a telecon on November 22. On the last call, we decided to keep the same time in the US even after the daylight savings time change, and I'm doing my best to convert to other times below. If my conversions are incorrect, I apologize, and let me know so I can correct on future messages. > > 9:00AM Central Standard Time US (GMT-0600) > which should be: > 10:00AM Eastern Standard Time US > 1500 UK(?) > 1600 Germany(?) > 0000 Japan (sorry Toshi) > > > Phone Number: 866-673-8466 in the US. 702-477-6031 for those outside the > US. > Conference code #8578310. > > > --- Jim > > -- > graap-wg mailing list > graap-wg at ogf.org > http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/graap-wg > > From lit at in.tum.de Wed Nov 22 09:59:16 2006 From: lit at in.tum.de (Tianchao Li) Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 16:59:16 +0100 Subject: [GRAAP-WG] New Public Comments List In-Reply-To: References: <00a701c70d43$f911ed20$ab84380a@ISIBASI> <4562DB73.4070300@in.tum.de> <4562E791.4020902@in.tum.de> <4562EF7F.6060300@scai.fraunhofer.de> <456304C5.7020106@in.tum.de> Message-ID: <456473D4.2020409@in.tum.de> Thanks for your information. I have reposted the proposal to https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/discussion/do/listPosts/projects.ggf-editor/discussion.rec_ws_agreement_spec_0.topc3956 and the updated document will be provided shortly. Best wishes, Tianchao t-nakata at cw.jp.nec.com wrote: > Tianchao: > Please repost your proposal to > > https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/discussion/do/listTopics/projects.ggf-editor/discussion.rec_ws_agreement_spec_0 > > > (I think either an updated WSDL file or a file with just the changes should be fine.) > > That way, it will be officially recorded so that it can be tracked. > > Best Regards > Toshi > > > > >> The changes only improves specific details of WSDL and not affecting the >> other part of the specification document (kind of editorial changes?). >> But I was not sure whether I should provide the updated WSDLs as >> separate files or directly update the WSDL in the word file. In fact, >> the my post to the maillist on Oct. 5th already contains the updated >> WSDLs, and nobody objects these improvements but still nobody has >> committed to change the word file accordingly. That's why I'm proposing >> to change the word file directly. >> >> Regards, >> Tianchao >> >> Wolfgang Ziegler wrote: >> >>> Hi Tianchao, >>> >>> the time you did sent the the WSDL the spec was already frozen except >>> for editorial changes. As Toshi wrote you should post the changes >>> as comment to the tracker. The public comment period ends end of November. >>> You should use the version of the spec as base that is used for >>> the public comments: >>> >>> https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/sfmain/do/downloadAttachment/projects.ggf-editor/tracker.submit_ggf_draft/artf3388?id=atch4282 >>> >>> >>> Best regards >>> >>> Wolfgang >>> >>> >>> >>> Tianchao Li schrieb: >>> >>> >>>> Sure, the recommended improvements was already posted to the maillist >>>> (http://www.ogf.org/pipermail/graap-wg/2006-October/000499.html). It has >>>> been over a month and nobody seems to reject those improvements, I would >>>> like to start to have them documented. Now, the question is of course >>>> which is the latest version of the document I should work on as a basis? >>>> >>>> Best wishes, >>>> Tianchao >>>> >>>> t-nakata at cw.jp.nec.com wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hi Tianchao : >>>>> Could you please post to the official ML/or the trackers? >>>>> Best Regards >>>>> Toshi >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> As was posted previously in the maillist >>>>>> (http://www.ogf.org/pipermail/graap-wg/2006-October/000499.html), I >>>>>> would like to update the current document with the improved WSDL >>>>>> definition to address several issues. Should I directly work on this >>>>>> Word file? >>>>>> >>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>> Tianchao Li >>>>>> >>>>>> Toshiyuki Nakata wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi? Apologies for being a nuisance but >>>>>>> Andreas Savva-san (of Fujitsu Laboratories) has kindly taken care of the TOC >>>>>>> >>>>>>> (Thank you very much Andreas!) so >>>>>>> posting again in case someone else also tries... >>>>>>> Best Regards >>>>>>> Toshi >>>>>>> ----- >>>>>>> Toshiyuki Nakata ?????? >>>>>>> Executive Chief Engineer, Central Research Lab. NEC >>>>>>> 1753, Shimonumabe, Nakahara-Ku, >>>>>>> Kawasaki,Kanagawa 211-8666,Japan >>>>>>> Tel +81-44-431-7653 (NEC Internal 22-60035) >>>>>>> Fax +81-44-431-7609 (NEC Internal 22-60509) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> graap-wg mailing list >>>>>>>> graap-wg at ogf.org >>>>>>>> http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/graap-wg >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>> ------- >>>>> NEC ???????????? >>>>> ?????? >>>>> Toshiyuki Nakata >>>>> Executive Chief Engineer >>>>> Central Research Laboratories >>>>> NEC Corporation >>>>> +81-44-431-7653 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> graap-wg mailing list >>>> graap-wg at ogf.org >>>> http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/graap-wg >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> -- >> graap-wg mailing list >> graap-wg at ogf.org >> http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/graap-wg >> > > ------- > NEC ???????????? > ?????? > Toshiyuki Nakata > Executive Chief Engineer > Central Research Laboratories > NEC Corporation > +81-44-431-7653 > > From lit at in.tum.de Wed Nov 22 11:53:47 2006 From: lit at in.tum.de (Tianchao Li) Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 18:53:47 +0100 Subject: [GRAAP-WG] New Public Comments List Message-ID: <45648EAB.4020408@in.tum.de> Hi, I've got the following responses after posting my proposal, which makes me feeling lost. What is the correct response to this question? Best regards, Tianchao -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: "Greg Newby" Subject: Re: Improvements to WSDLs and XSDs Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 08:46:42 -0900 Size: 1755 Url: http://www.ogf.org/pipermail/graap-wg/attachments/20061122/e989feba/attachment.mht From t-nakata at cw.jp.nec.com Thu Nov 23 02:40:14 2006 From: t-nakata at cw.jp.nec.com (t-nakata at cw.jp.nec.com) Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 17:40:14 +0900 Subject: [GRAAP-WG] New Public Comments List In-Reply-To: <45648EAB.4020408@in.tum.de> References: <45648EAB.4020408@in.tum.de> Message-ID: Hi: I'm also puzzled by the reponse. As far as I know, you've posted your comment to https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/discussion/do/listTopics/projects.ggf-editor/discussion.rec_ws_agreement_spec_0 (As did myself and Donal) so should be fine. Best Regards Toshi > Hi, > > I've got the following responses after posting my proposal, which makes > me feeling lost. What is the correct response to this question? > > Best regards, > Tianchao > ------- NEC ???????????? ?????? Toshiyuki Nakata Executive Chief Engineer Central Research Laboratories NEC Corporation +81-44-431-7653 From t-nakata at cw.jp.nec.com Thu Nov 23 02:44:47 2006 From: t-nakata at cw.jp.nec.com (t-nakata at cw.jp.nec.com) Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 17:44:47 +0900 Subject: [GRAAP-WG] telecon on 11/22 In-Reply-To: <45646EDD.3070100@in.tum.de> References: <45638F22.2020408@hp.com> <45646EDD.3070100@in.tum.de> Message-ID: Hi: Sorry we (Jim and I ) waited / discussed for about 15 minutes and then closed the session. > Hi, > Is anybody there by the telecon? > "The conference has not been initiated ... (music) ...." > > Best Regards, > Tianchao > > Jim Pruyne wrote: >> We'll hold a telecon on November 22. On the last call, we decided to keep the same time in the US even after the daylight savings time change, and I'm doing my best to convert to other times below. If my conversions are incorrect, I apologize, and let me know so I can correct on future messages. >> >> 9:00AM Central Standard Time US (GMT-0600) >> which should be: >> 10:00AM Eastern Standard Time US >> 1500 UK(?) >> 1600 Germany(?) >> 0000 Japan (sorry Toshi) >> >> >> Phone Number: 866-673-8466 in the US. 702-477-6031 for those outside the >> US. >> Conference code #8578310. >> >> >> --- Jim >> >> -- >> graap-wg mailing list >> graap-wg at ogf.org >> http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/graap-wg >> >> > > -- > graap-wg mailing list > graap-wg at ogf.org > http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/graap-wg ------- NEC ???????????? ?????? Toshiyuki Nakata Executive Chief Engineer Central Research Laboratories NEC Corporation +81-44-431-7653 From lit at in.tum.de Thu Nov 23 07:50:47 2006 From: lit at in.tum.de (Tianchao Li) Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 14:50:47 +0100 Subject: [GRAAP-WG] Updated spec document In-Reply-To: References: <45648EAB.4020408@in.tum.de> Message-ID: <4565A737.60206@in.tum.de> Hi, Continuing with the previous discussions, I've finished editing the document to reflect the proposed WSDL and XSD improvements. Please see the attachment with comments. I have used Toshi's newest draft (WS-AgreementSpecificationDraftFinal+sp+tn+jpver.6b.doc) as the basis, and the current file is named as WS-AgreementSpecificationDraftFinal+sp+tn+jpver.6b+tc.doc. To see the original comment, please go https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/discussion/do/listTopics/projects.ggf-editor/discussion.rec_ws_agreement_spec_0 Best regards, Tianchao ========================= Research Staff Institut fuer Informatik, TU Muenchen http://www.lrr.in.tum.de/~lit t-nakata at cw.jp.nec.com wrote: > Hi: I'm also puzzled by the reponse. > As far as I know, you've posted your comment to > https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/discussion/do/listTopics/projects.ggf-editor/discussion.rec_ws_agreement_spec_0 > > (As did myself and Donal) so should be fine. > > Best Regards > Toshi > > >> Hi, >> >> I've got the following responses after posting my proposal, which makes >> me feeling lost. What is the correct response to this question? >> >> Best regards, >> Tianchao >> >> > > ------- > NEC ???????????? > ?????? > Toshiyuki Nakata > Executive Chief Engineer > Central Research Laboratories > NEC Corporation > +81-44-431-7653 > > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: WS-AgreementSpecificationDraftFinal+sp+tn+jpver.6b+tc.doc Type: application/msword Size: 1092096 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.ogf.org/pipermail/graap-wg/attachments/20061123/5b6f012d/attachment.doc From t-nakata at cw.jp.nec.com Thu Nov 23 20:55:13 2006 From: t-nakata at cw.jp.nec.com (Toshiyuki Nakata) Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2006 11:55:13 +0900 Subject: [GRAAP-WG] Updated excel Sheet In-Reply-To: <4565A737.60206@in.tum.de> Message-ID: <009a01c70f73$f67be980$ab84380a@ISIBASI> Is attached. Tianchao: Thank you very much for putting your comments in the official Comments. For Tianchao's comments, we definitely need feedback from some of the the Implementors. Best Regards Toshi ----- Toshiyuki Nakata ?????? Executive Chief Engineer, Central Research Lab. NEC 1753, Shimonumabe, Nakahara-Ku, Kawasaki,Kanagawa 211-8666,Japan Tel +81-44-431-7653 (NEC Internal 22-60035) Fax +81-44-431-7609 (NEC Internal 22-60509) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: PublicComments3-061124.xls Type: application/vnd.ms-excel Size: 84480 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.ogf.org/pipermail/graap-wg/attachments/20061124/4f06d010/attachment.xls -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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However, although I do not see any obvious reason for such a duplication, maybe there is. So, I did not delete them from the schema. The draft that I posted yesterday contains some typo errors as well as mistakes in the schema (sorry for that) and is updated with the new attachment (WS-AgreementSpecificationDraftFinal+sp+tn+jpver.6b+tcver2.doc). Furthermore, if we decided to remove AgreementServiceReference from the property of Agreement, we can take WS-AgreementSpecificationDraftFinal+sp+tn+jpver.6b+tcver3.doc, which further editing work has been done to remove AgreementServiceReference definition from the spec. Best regards, Tianchao Li ======================== Research Staff Institut fuer Informatik, TU Muenchen http://www.lrr.in.tum.de/~lit Toshiyuki Nakata wrote: > Is attached. > Tianchao: Thank you very much for putting your comments in the > official Comments. > > For Tianchao's comments, we definitely need feedback from some of the the > Implementors. > Best Regards > Toshi > ----- > Toshiyuki Nakata ?????? > Executive Chief Engineer, Central Research Lab. NEC > 1753, Shimonumabe, Nakahara-Ku, > Kawasaki,Kanagawa 211-8666,Japan > Tel +81-44-431-7653 (NEC Internal 22-60035) > Fax +81-44-431-7609 (NEC Internal 22-60509) > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > -- > graap-wg mailing list > graap-wg at ogf.org > http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/graap-wg -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Best regards, Tianchao Li ==================== Research Staff Institut fuer Informatik, TU Muenchen Germany http://www.lrr.in.tum.de/~lit From t-nakata at cw.jp.nec.com Mon Nov 27 16:51:25 2006 From: t-nakata at cw.jp.nec.com (t-nakata at cw.jp.nec.com) Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 07:51:25 +0900 Subject: [GRAAP-WG] WS-Agreement on top of WS-Notification In-Reply-To: <456B0B61.5020906@in.tum.de> References: <00a701c70d43$f911ed20$ab84380a@ISIBASI> <456B0B61.5020906@in.tum.de> Message-ID: This was in order to make it possible for implementations which do not use WS-Notification. Best Regards Toshi > Hi, > > I noticed that WS-Notification is missing in the current specification: > 1. notification of agreement acceptance is currently via custom port type. > 2. the agreement status port does not extend the WS-Notification port type. > > Are there any specific reasons? > > Best regards, > Tianchao Li > > ==================== > Research Staff > Institut fuer Informatik, TU Muenchen > Germany > http://www.lrr.in.tum.de/~lit > > > -- > graap-wg mailing list > graap-wg at ogf.org > http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/graap-wg ------- NEC ???????????? ?????? Toshiyuki Nakata Executive Chief Engineer Central Research Laboratories NEC Corporation +81-44-431-7653 From lit at in.tum.de Tue Nov 28 08:43:34 2006 From: lit at in.tum.de (Tianchao Li) Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 15:43:34 +0100 Subject: [GRAAP-WG] WS-Agreement on top of WS-Notification In-Reply-To: References: <00a701c70d43$f911ed20$ab84380a@ISIBASI> <456B0B61.5020906@in.tum.de> Message-ID: <456C4B16.1040109@in.tum.de> I understand. But what do you think if we clarify in the specification to allow the usage of WS-Notification wherever appropriate? Best regards, Tianchao t-nakata at cw.jp.nec.com wrote: > This was in order to make it possible for implementations which do not > use WS-Notification. > > Best Regards > Toshi > > >> Hi, >> >> I noticed that WS-Notification is missing in the current specification: >> 1. notification of agreement acceptance is currently via custom port type. >> 2. the agreement status port does not extend the WS-Notification port type. >> >> Are there any specific reasons? >> >> Best regards, >> Tianchao Li >> >> ==================== >> Research Staff >> Institut fuer Informatik, TU Muenchen >> Germany >> http://www.lrr.in.tum.de/~lit >> >> >> -- >> graap-wg mailing list >> graap-wg at ogf.org >> http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/graap-wg >> > > ------- > NEC ???????????? > ?????? > Toshiyuki Nakata > Executive Chief Engineer > Central Research Laboratories > NEC Corporation > +81-44-431-7653 > > From Wolfgang.Ziegler at scai.fraunhofer.de Tue Nov 28 08:50:04 2006 From: Wolfgang.Ziegler at scai.fraunhofer.de (Wolfgang Ziegler) Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 15:50:04 +0100 Subject: [GRAAP-WG] WS-Agreement on top of WS-Notification In-Reply-To: <456C4B16.1040109@in.tum.de> References: <00a701c70d43$f911ed20$ab84380a@ISIBASI> <456B0B61.5020906@in.tum.de> <456C4B16.1040109@in.tum.de> Message-ID: <456C4C9C.8080503@scai.fraunhofer.de> Dear Tianchao, please send this as input to the public comments. We will discuss the issue with the authors and especially wrt to interoperability issues that might arise having implementations including WS-Negotiation and such without. Best regards Wolfgang Tianchao Li schrieb: > I understand. But what do you think if we clarify in the specification > to allow the usage of WS-Notification wherever appropriate? > > Best regards, > Tianchao > > t-nakata at cw.jp.nec.com wrote: >> This was in order to make it possible for implementations which do not >> use WS-Notification. >> >> Best Regards >> Toshi >> >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I noticed that WS-Notification is missing in the current specification: >>> 1. notification of agreement acceptance is currently via custom port type. >>> 2. the agreement status port does not extend the WS-Notification port type. >>> >>> Are there any specific reasons? >>> >>> Best regards, >>> Tianchao Li >>> >>> ==================== >>> Research Staff >>> Institut fuer Informatik, TU Muenchen >>> Germany >>> http://www.lrr.in.tum.de/~lit >>> >>> >>> -- >>> graap-wg mailing list >>> graap-wg at ogf.org >>> http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/graap-wg >>> >> ------- >> NEC ???????????? >> ?????? >> Toshiyuki Nakata >> Executive Chief Engineer >> Central Research Laboratories >> NEC Corporation >> +81-44-431-7653 >> >> > > -- > graap-wg mailing list > graap-wg at ogf.org > http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/graap-wg -- Wolfgang Ziegler www.scai.fraunhofer.de/ziegler.html Fraunhofer-Institute for Algorithms and Scientific Computing (SCAI) Schloss Birlinghoven, D-53754 Sankt Augustin, Germany Tel: +49 2241 14 2258; Fax: +49 2241 14 42258 CoreGRID Network of Excellence www.coregrid.net Collaboration Gateway www.coregrid.net/cg Institute on Resource Management and Scheduling www.coregrid.net/irms -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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