From jim_pruyne at hp.com Wed Feb 1 02:28:29 2006 From: jim_pruyne at hp.com (Jim Pruyne) Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 00:28:29 -0800 Subject: [graap-wg] telecon on 2/1 Message-ID: <43E0712D.70803@hp.com> We will have a telecon. on Wed. morning/evening. Dial-in numbers will be the same. The time is: 9:00AM Central Time US (GMT-0600, I think) which should be: 10:00AM Eastern Time US 1500 UK 1600 Germany midnight Japan 2200 Thailand Phone Number: 866-673-8466 in the US. 702-477-6031 for those outside the US. Conference code #8578310. We'll continue addressing comments received during public comment. The current draft is stored on Grid Forge. --- Jim From jim_pruyne at hp.com Wed Feb 1 09:30:20 2006 From: jim_pruyne at hp.com (Jim Pruyne) Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 07:30:20 -0800 Subject: [graap-wg] telecon on 2/1 In-Reply-To: <43E0712D.70803@hp.com> References: <43E0712D.70803@hp.com> Message-ID: <43E0D40C.8040505@hp.com> Toshi and I were the only ones on the call, so we cut it short. Next week is the last before GGF, so hopefully we can have good attendance to have any last discussions on presentations at GGF, and to have a little more progress to show by then. --- Jim Jim Pruyne wrote: > We will have a telecon. on Wed. morning/evening. Dial-in numbers will > be the same. > The time is: > 9:00AM Central Time US (GMT-0600, I think) > which should be: > 10:00AM Eastern Time US > 1500 UK > 1600 Germany > midnight Japan > 2200 Thailand > > Phone Number: 866-673-8466 in the US. 702-477-6031 for those outside > the US. > Conference code #8578310. > > We'll continue addressing comments received during public comment. > The current draft is stored on Grid Forge. > > --- Jim > From jim_pruyne at hp.com Wed Feb 8 02:29:17 2006 From: jim_pruyne at hp.com (Jim Pruyne) Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2006 00:29:17 -0800 Subject: [graap-wg] telecon on 2/8 Message-ID: <43E9ABDD.1010307@hp.com> We will have a telecon. on Wed. morning/evening. Dial-in numbers will be the same. The time is: 9:00AM Central Time US (GMT-0600, I think) which should be: 10:00AM Eastern Time US 1500 UK 1600 Germany midnight Japan 2200 Thailand Phone Number: 866-673-8466 in the US. 702-477-6031 for those outside the US. Conference code #8578310. We'll finalize plans for GGF which is next week and continue addressing comments received during public comment. The current draft is stored on Grid Forge. --- Jim From Anne.Anderson at sun.com Wed Feb 8 08:44:19 2006 From: Anne.Anderson at sun.com (Anne Anderson) Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2006 09:44:19 -0500 Subject: [graap-wg] condition expression language requirements for WS-Agreement Message-ID: <43EA03C3.5050006@Sun.COM> WS-Agreement is supposed to be "a Web Services protocol for establishing agreement between two parties". Unless there are defined mechanisms for reaching agreement on the contents of a WS-Agreement specification, I don't believe WS-Agreement has met its primary goal. Particularly in the area of condition expression languages, there has been little successful work on feasible intersection/agreement mechanisms other than the work done in the field of "narrowing algorithms". For example, there is intersection/agreement between two general XQuery expressions is undefined. There is a comment suggesting that the condition expression language/dialect be completely at the discretion of the WS-Agreement instance originator, which will make this problem even harder unless there is a corresponding requirement that two parties must either agree on the dialect used (and that it have a feasible intersection/agreement mechanism) or that there must be a defined intersection/agreement mechanism between the two dialects. I recommend inserting a requirement that any language/dialect specified for WS-Agreement condition expressions must have a referenceable specification for computing intersection or agreement between any two expressions in the language/dialect. Unless this is done, WS-Agreement will not meet its goals and will not be interoperable. Regards, Anne -- Anne H. Anderson Email: Anne.Anderson at Sun.COM Sun Microsystems Laboratories 1 Network Drive,UBUR02-311 Tel: 781/442-0928 Burlington, MA 01803-0902 USA Fax: 781/442-1692 From karlcz at univa.com Wed Feb 8 09:06:38 2006 From: karlcz at univa.com (Karl Czajkowski) Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 22:06:38 +0700 Subject: [graap-wg] condition expression language requirements for WS-Agreement In-Reply-To: <43EA03C3.5050006@Sun.COM> References: <43EA03C3.5050006@Sun.COM> Message-ID: <20060208150638.GC6327@moraine.localdomain> On Feb 08, Anne Anderson modulated: > WS-Agreement is supposed to be "a Web Services protocol for establishing > agreement between two parties". Unless there are defined mechanisms for > reaching agreement on the contents of a WS-Agreement specification, I > don't believe WS-Agreement has met its primary goal. > I think I understand your point, and unfortunately this is an area that has not been documented very well. Aside from your assertion below, I think most of us have considered this a non-normative documentation issue that should be captured in a "primer" document. In a nutshell, the expected "agreement handshake" really starts with the initiator consuming the advertised template(s) from a responder. The first decision then is the initiator deciding whether the responder accepts an agreement format that is acceptable to the initiator. If so, he may proceed with formulating an agreement and making an offer. If not, he has to go back to discovery. The second decision is whether the responder understands an offer and wants to accept it. This of course requires being able to extract the semantic content of the offer in some form such that the responder's policies can be evaluated to determine whether to accept or reject. > Particularly in the area of condition expression languages, there has > been little successful work on feasible intersection/agreement > mechanisms other than the work done in the field of "narrowing > algorithms". For example, there is intersection/agreement between two > general XQuery expressions is undefined. There is a comment suggesting > that the condition expression language/dialect be completely at the > discretion of the WS-Agreement instance originator, which will make this > problem even harder unless there is a corresponding requirement that two > parties must either agree on the dialect used (and that it have a > feasible intersection/agreement mechanism) or that there must be a > defined intersection/agreement mechanism between the two dialects. > You are assuming, perhaps, that a general WS-Agreement implementation will exist that computes intersections without domain-specific knowledge. While I think this would be interesting, I think many participants have set a lesser goal of being able to implement domain-specific WS-Agreement implementations which can interoperate according to a "profile" specification. There are two reasons this is worth pointing out: 1) the profile may define the specific intersection model that is appropriate for the domain 2) the profile may define additional discovery content to simplify discovery of "interoperable profile implementations" You might be pleased if you were to look into the JSDL job example in the specification. I think you will find that the "range value" type in the JSDL language has very simple intersection semantics which can allow narrowing between the template, offer, and responder operating policies to determine a match. > I recommend inserting a requirement that any language/dialect specified > for WS-Agreement condition expressions must have a referenceable > specification for computing intersection or agreement between any two > expressions in the language/dialect. Unless this is done, WS-Agreement > will not meet its goals and will not be interoperable. > I don't have a problem with inserting a "SHOULD" statement about this, but I think I disagree about the consequence of not having it. I do not think there is a necessary interoperability between all WS-Agreement implementations, but merely between implementations which follow profiles where the conditional languages are normatively defined. I would be interested to hear others' opinions on this... karl -- Karl Czajkowski karlcz at univa.com From Anne.Anderson at sun.com Wed Feb 8 10:01:30 2006 From: Anne.Anderson at sun.com (Anne Anderson) Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2006 11:01:30 -0500 Subject: [graap-wg] condition expression language requirements for WS-Agreement In-Reply-To: <20060208150638.GC6327@moraine.localdomain> References: <43EA03C3.5050006@Sun.COM> <20060208150638.GC6327@moraine.localdomain> Message-ID: <43EA15DA.1000002@Sun.COM> Karl, Thank you very much for pointing out the RangeValue_Type in the Job Submission Description Language (JSDL), which I had overlooked in my earlier reading of WS-Agreement. This is exactly the type of mechanism on which automated intersection/agreement can be based. RangeValue_Type handles numeric types; also needed, however, are SetValue_Type types for IP address subnets, regular expressions over strings, and a few other basic types used in service agreements, along with Boolean operators for combining range or exact-value constraints. The simple condition language in the WS-Agreement "Preference Example" is an example of such Boolean operators. So many of the pieces exist. If they can be pulled together into a "condition expression language" that could be referenced, it would go far toward allowing automated agreement, and would improve interoperability. The variables used in such expressions will be domain-dependent, but if the condition expressions over their values use a standard condition expression language, then implementations of WS-Agreement can be smaller (supporting fewer mechanisms), more easily testable (no domain-specific tests of comdition expression intersection/agreement), and more interoperable. Agreements can be more easily computed by brokers or other 3rd parties that may not have or need the domain-specific code associated with the variables themselves: this seems like an important consideration for Grid environments. Interoperability may not be a goal, but if an implementation of WS-Agreement will be used with more than one other partner, with more than one other condition expression language, being able to reduce the number of mechanisms that need to be supported is at least a valuable objective. For the current draft, if you are really intending to address the condition expression language in a meaningful way in the next version, how about removing the suggestions that XQuery might be an appropriate condition expression language. XQuery is great for what it was designed to do: express query constraints. But it was not designed for nor is it suitable for expressing agreement constraints. There are no intersection/agreement mechanisms defined for XQuery expressions in general, and intersection/agreement is undefinable in many cases. This would involve removing the statement that "An example of a generic assertion language can be found in [XQUERYX]." in section "4.2.6.2 Qualifying Condition and Service Level Objective" and the statement that "A general purpose constraint language has been proposed as part of the XQuery and XPATH language. The XML rendering of this expression language, XQueryX, MAY contain a suitable constraint language that can be used to phrase constraints involving multiple items." in section "5.1.2 Free?form Constraints", along with the subsequent "wsag:XQueryXConstraint" extension of "". Please understand, I am not objecting to XQuery itself, but only to suggestions that it may be an appropriate constraint language where agreement semantics are needed. Few WS-Agreement users will understand the real implications of the choice of condition expression language until they have invested significant time and effort into implementation and use. At least don't lead them down the wrong path while you wait for an appropriate path to appear. Regards, Anne Karl Czajkowski wrote On 02/08/06 10:06,: > On Feb 08, Anne Anderson modulated: > >>WS-Agreement is supposed to be "a Web Services protocol for establishing >>agreement between two parties". Unless there are defined mechanisms for >>reaching agreement on the contents of a WS-Agreement specification, I >>don't believe WS-Agreement has met its primary goal. >> > > > I think I understand your point, and unfortunately this is an area > that has not been documented very well. Aside from your assertion > below, I think most of us have considered this a non-normative > documentation issue that should be captured in a "primer" document. > > In a nutshell, the expected "agreement handshake" really starts with > the initiator consuming the advertised template(s) from a responder. > The first decision then is the initiator deciding whether the > responder accepts an agreement format that is acceptable to the > initiator. If so, he may proceed with formulating an agreement and > making an offer. If not, he has to go back to discovery. > > The second decision is whether the responder understands an offer and > wants to accept it. This of course requires being able to extract the > semantic content of the offer in some form such that the responder's > policies can be evaluated to determine whether to accept or reject. > > > >>Particularly in the area of condition expression languages, there has >>been little successful work on feasible intersection/agreement >>mechanisms other than the work done in the field of "narrowing >>algorithms". For example, there is intersection/agreement between two >>general XQuery expressions is undefined. There is a comment suggesting >>that the condition expression language/dialect be completely at the >>discretion of the WS-Agreement instance originator, which will make this >>problem even harder unless there is a corresponding requirement that two >>parties must either agree on the dialect used (and that it have a >>feasible intersection/agreement mechanism) or that there must be a >>defined intersection/agreement mechanism between the two dialects. >> > > > You are assuming, perhaps, that a general WS-Agreement implementation > will exist that computes intersections without domain-specific > knowledge. While I think this would be interesting, I think many > participants have set a lesser goal of being able to implement > domain-specific WS-Agreement implementations which can interoperate > according to a "profile" specification. There are two reasons this is > worth pointing out: > > 1) the profile may define the specific intersection model that is > appropriate for the domain > > 2) the profile may define additional discovery content to simplify > discovery of "interoperable profile implementations" > > You might be pleased if you were to look into the JSDL job example in > the specification. I think you will find that the "range value" type > in the JSDL language has very simple intersection semantics which can > allow narrowing between the template, offer, and responder operating > policies to determine a match. > > > >>I recommend inserting a requirement that any language/dialect specified >>for WS-Agreement condition expressions must have a referenceable >>specification for computing intersection or agreement between any two >>expressions in the language/dialect. Unless this is done, WS-Agreement >>will not meet its goals and will not be interoperable. >> > > > I don't have a problem with inserting a "SHOULD" statement about this, > but I think I disagree about the consequence of not having it. I do > not think there is a necessary interoperability between all > WS-Agreement implementations, but merely between implementations which > follow profiles where the conditional languages are normatively > defined. > > I would be interested to hear others' opinions on this... > > > karl > -- Anne H. Anderson Email: Anne.Anderson at Sun.COM Sun Microsystems Laboratories 1 Network Drive,UBUR02-311 Tel: 781/442-0928 Burlington, MA 01803-0902 USA Fax: 781/442-1692 From jim_pruyne at hp.com Wed Feb 8 10:12:32 2006 From: jim_pruyne at hp.com (Jim Pruyne) Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2006 08:12:32 -0800 Subject: [graap-wg] minutes from 2/8 telecon Message-ID: <43EA1870.5060101@hp.com> They are attached. Next week is GGF, so there will be no conference call. We'll plan to have one the following week, on the 22nd, unless no one is ready to do so soon after GGF. Also, and updated version of the spec. from today's call will be uploaded to grid-forge in a moment. --- Jim -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: Feb0806-minutes.txt Url: http://www.ogf.org/pipermail/graap-wg/attachments/20060208/9a8a323d/attachment.txt From karlcz at univa.com Wed Feb 8 10:21:59 2006 From: karlcz at univa.com (Karl Czajkowski) Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 23:21:59 +0700 Subject: [graap-wg] condition expression language requirements for WS-Agreement In-Reply-To: <43EA15DA.1000002@Sun.COM> References: <43EA03C3.5050006@Sun.COM> <20060208150638.GC6327@moraine.localdomain> <43EA15DA.1000002@Sun.COM> Message-ID: <20060208162159.GE6327@moraine.localdomain> On Feb 08, Anne Anderson modulated: ... > This would involve removing the statement that "An example of a generic > assertion language can be found in [XQUERYX]." in section "4.2.6.2 > Qualifying Condition and Service Level Objective" and the statement that > "A general purpose constraint language has been proposed as part of the > XQuery and XPATH language. The XML rendering of this expression > language, XQueryX, MAY contain a suitable constraint language that can > be used to phrase constraints involving multiple items." in section > "5.1.2 Free?form Constraints", along with the subsequent > "wsag:XQueryXConstraint" extension of "". > > Please understand, I am not objecting to XQuery itself, but only to > suggestions that it may be an appropriate constraint language where > agreement semantics are needed. Few WS-Agreement users will understand > the real implications of the choice of condition expression language > until they have invested significant time and effort into implementation > and use. At least don't lead them down the wrong path while you wait > for an appropriate path to appear. > > Regards, > Anne > I would strongly endorse such a change, as well as a replacement text that mentions a better assertion language. I think this is one of those spots where something was stuffed in because previous commentary had called for more concrete examples... While we're at it, we SHOULD remove the inappropriate use of "MAY" in such a recommendation. :-) karl -- Karl Czajkowski karlcz at univa.com From nakata at mtg.biglobe.ne.jp Wed Feb 8 10:28:40 2006 From: nakata at mtg.biglobe.ne.jp (Toshiyuki Nakata) Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 01:28:40 +0900 Subject: [graap-wg] condition expression language requirements for WS-Agreement In-Reply-To: <20060208162159.GE6327@moraine.localdomain> References: <43EA03C3.5050006@Sun.COM> <20060208150638.GC6327@moraine.localdomain> <43EA15DA.1000002@Sun.COM> <20060208162159.GE6327@moraine.localdomain> Message-ID: <43EA1C38.8060705@mtg.biglobe.ne.jp> I'll add Anne's suggestion to the 'Public Comments' list Toshi. Karl Czajkowski wrote: > On Feb 08, Anne Anderson modulated: > ... > >>This would involve removing the statement that "An example of a generic >>assertion language can be found in [XQUERYX]." in section "4.2.6.2 >>Qualifying Condition and Service Level Objective" and the statement that >>"A general purpose constraint language has been proposed as part of the >>XQuery and XPATH language. The XML rendering of this expression >>language, XQueryX, MAY contain a suitable constraint language that can >>be used to phrase constraints involving multiple items." in section >>"5.1.2 Free?form Constraints", along with the subsequent >>"wsag:XQueryXConstraint" extension of "". >> >>Please understand, I am not objecting to XQuery itself, but only to >>suggestions that it may be an appropriate constraint language where >>agreement semantics are needed. Few WS-Agreement users will understand >>the real implications of the choice of condition expression language >>until they have invested significant time and effort into implementation >>and use. At least don't lead them down the wrong path while you wait >>for an appropriate path to appear. >> >>Regards, >>Anne >> > > > I would strongly endorse such a change, as well as a replacement text > that mentions a better assertion language. I think this is one of > those spots where something was stuffed in because previous commentary > had called for more concrete examples... > > While we're at it, we SHOULD remove the inappropriate use of "MAY" in > such a recommendation. :-) > > > karl > From nakata at mtg.biglobe.ne.jp Wed Feb 8 10:33:31 2006 From: nakata at mtg.biglobe.ne.jp (Toshiyuki Nakata) Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 01:33:31 +0900 Subject: [graap-wg] minutes from 2/8 telecon In-Reply-To: <43EA1870.5060101@hp.com> References: <43EA1870.5060101@hp.com> Message-ID: <43EA1D5B.5080602@mtg.biglobe.ne.jp> Public Comment List updated. Toshi Jim Pruyne wrote: > They are attached. Next week is GGF, so there will be no conference > call. We'll plan to have one the following week, on the 22nd, unless no > one is ready to do so soon after GGF. Also, and updated version of the > spec. from today's call will be uploaded to grid-forge in a moment. > > --- Jim > > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: PublicComments060208.xls Type: application/vnd.ms-excel Size: 100352 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.ogf.org/pipermail/graap-wg/attachments/20060209/2bb41863/attachment.xls From ph.wieder at fz-juelich.de Thu Feb 9 15:57:02 2006 From: ph.wieder at fz-juelich.de (Philipp Wieder) Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 22:57:02 +0100 Subject: [graap-wg] GSA-RG session at GGF 16 Message-ID: <43EBBAAE.5030102@fz-juelich.de> Dear All, the GSA-RG would like to invite you to our session at GGF 16. Date: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 Time: 3:30 pm - 5:00 pm Location: Olympia B We are especially looking forward to see three presentations on state-of-the-art scheduling systems. These presentations will examine generic Grid scheduling requirements and will therefore also be of interest to groups like GRAAP or OGSA-RSS. Please find the respective abstracts below. I hope to see you in Athens. Best regards, Philipp. ABSTRACTS: ---------- 1. "Workflow Scheduling in the ASKALON Grid Environment" by Marek Wieczorek, University of Innsbruck The ASKALON Grid environment is a full Grid environment designed to compose and execute scentific workflow applications. The ASKALON scheduler is a dynamic scheduling service using different optimization techniques to maximize the user's profit in accessing the Grid. Pluggable architecture of the scheduler enables the user to apply different workflow scheduling algorithms, to apply advance reservations, and to consider different optimization criteria, among them execution time and economic cost. Acting as a part of a full Grid environment, the scheduler interacts with other components of the ASKALON, namely with the resource management, the enactment engine, the performance prediction and the monitoring services, trying to make scheduling decisions based on the most reliable and up-to-date information. Our goals are to make the service SLA-aware and to extend it in the directions recommended by the GGF community. Besides the functionality of ASKALON scheduler we will also reflect general requirements for a Grid scheduler. 2. "The VIOLA Meta-scheduling Service" by Wolfgang Ziegler, Fraunhofer SCAI Distributed applications or workflows usually require different specialised resources like compute nodes, visualisation devices, storage devices, or network connectivity with a defined QoS at the same time or within a given period of time to be executed successfully. Orchestrating such resources on a local level within one organisation is only a minor organisational problem. Orchestration of resources on a Grid level requires a service that is able to solve the same problems in an environment that probably stretches across several administrative domains. Additional conditions have to be taken into account, like site autonomy and different site policies. In this talk we first describe the environment where co-allocation of resources is of vital importance, the requirements for the MetaScheduling service that provides the required co-allocation means, and related work. In the next step we characterise the functionality of the MetaScheduling service, followed by the description of the current implementation. As a use case we show the integration of the scheduling system into the UNICORE Grid middleware and finally we present a new project based on this work that started end of 2005. 3. "GridWay Scheduling Architecture" by Ignacio Mart?n Llorente, Universidad Complutense de Madrid GridWay, on top of Globus services, enables large-scale, secure and reliable sharing of computing resources (clusters, computing farms, servers, supercomputers...), managed by different resource management systems (PBS, SGE, LSF, Condor...), within a single organization (enterprise grid) or scattered across several administrative domains (partner or supply-chain grid). GridWay is an open source meta-scheduling technology that performs job execution management and resource brokering, allowing unattended, reliable, and efficient execution of jobs, array jobs, or complex jobs on heterogeneous and dynamic Grids. GridWay performs all the job scheduling and submission steps transparently to the end user and adapts job execution to changing Grid conditions by providing fault recovery mechanisms, dynamic scheduling, migration on-request and opportunistic migration. The presentation describes the scheduling requirements for partner grid computing, the functionality provided by GridWay to meet those requirements, the GridWay scheduling architecture and finally its requirements on core Grid services for the implementation of such functionality. From ali at epcc.ed.ac.uk Fri Feb 10 07:00:34 2006 From: ali at epcc.ed.ac.uk (Ali Anjomshoaa) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 13:00:34 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [graap-wg] JSDL Workshop at GGF16 Message-ID: Dear colleagues, [My apologies for cross-posting] Just a quick announcement of the JSDL-WG Workshop at GGF16. Date: Wed. 15th Feb. Time: 08:30 - 12:00 Room: Mycenae The talks are in the schedule below. We all look forward to seeing you there and to your feedback and contributions towards our ongoing work in the JSDL-WG. Kind regards, Ali (on behalf of the JSDL-WG) JSDL-WG: https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/jsdl-wg/ JSDL-Spec: http://www.gridforum.org/documents/GFD.56.pdf -- ---------------------------------------------------- |epcc| - Ali Anjomshoaa EPCC, University of Edinburgh James Clerk Maxwell Building Mayfield Road E-mail: ali at epcc.ed.ac.uk Edinburgh, EH9 3JZ Phone: + 44 (0) 131 650 5818 United Kingdom Fax: + 44 (0) 131 650 6555 ------------------------------------------------------------- ---- GGF16, JSDL Workshop Schedule ---- 08:30 - Welcome and Introductions 08:35 - JSDL Tutorial Andreas Savva (Fujitsu Laboratories Ltd, Japan) Steve McGough (LeSC, Imperial College London, UK) William Lee (Lesc, Imperial College London, UK) 09:20 - GridSAM presentation William Lee, (LeSC, Imperial College London, UK) 09:40 - NAREGI presentation Kazushige Saga (National Institute of Informatics, Japan) 10:00 - *** BREAK *** 10:30 - HPCEuropa presentation Ariel Oleksiak (Poznan Supercomputing and Networking Centre, Poland) 10:50 - Japan Business Grid presentation Andreas Savva (Fujitsu Laboratories Ltd, Japan) 11:10 - UniGrids presentation Michel Drescher (Fujitsu Laboratories of Europe, UK) 11:30 - Platform Computing presentation Christopher Smith (Platform Computing, USA) 11:50 - Conclusions and closing remarks 12:00 - END ---------- From pruyne at hpl.hp.com Tue Feb 21 17:00:56 2006 From: pruyne at hpl.hp.com (Jim Pruyne) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 15:00:56 -0800 Subject: [graap-wg] No telecon on 2/22 Message-ID: <43FB9BA8.3060808@hpl.hp.com> Folks, Let's wait one additional week to start our telecons again. 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