From t-nakata at cw.jp.nec.com Wed Aug 2 03:25:00 2006 From: t-nakata at cw.jp.nec.com (Toshiyuki Nakata) Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 17:25:00 +0900 Subject: [graap-wg] [Fwd: WSAG Draft] In-Reply-To: <44C772D3.2040906@scai.fraunhofer.de> Message-ID: <000a01c6b60d$25549c90$ab84380a@ISIBASI> Hi: 1)> AgreementSchemaTypes: > wsa-Namespace is not used (should be removed) OK. >2) wsrf-bf: fault section could be moved to wsdl, therefore > eliminating the dependency to wsrf-bf in the xml-schema (only > in wsdl). > I am not sure whether below could be moved to wsdl or not. Someone please comment. On the other hand, I remember someone (Karl?)pointing out that we do not need this ContinuingFaultType at all? 3)> AgreementAcceptanceSchemaTypes: > Namespaces wsa and wsrf-bf should be removed since they were > not used in the schema. Uh.. do you mean Agreement Acceptance Port Type WSDL or Agreement State Types Schema? Best Regards Toshi. PS will there be a telecon tonight? ----- Toshiyuki Nakata ?????? Executive Chief Engineer, Central Research Lab. NEC 1753, Shimonumabe, Nakahara-Ku, Kawasaki,Kanagawa 211-8666,Japan Tel +81-44-431-7653 (NEC Internal 22-60035) Fax +81-44-431-7609 (NEC Internal 22-60509) > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-graap-wg at ggf.org [mailto:owner-graap-wg at ggf.org] > On Behalf Of Wolfgang Ziegler > Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 10:49 PM > To: Jim Pruyne; Nakata Toshi; GRAAP-WG > Subject: [graap-wg] [Fwd: WSAG Draft] > > Dear all, > > Here are some comments from my colleague Oliver: > > > > Best regards > > Wolfgang > > -- > Wolfgang Ziegler www.scai.fraunhofer.de/ziegler.html > Fraunhofer-Institute for Algorithms and Scientific > Computing (SCAI) > Schloss Birlinghoven, D-53754 Sankt Augustin, Germany > Tel: +49 2241 14 2258; Fax: +49 2241 14 42258 > > CoreGRID Network of Excellence www.coregrid.net > Collaboration Gateway www.coregrid.net/cg > Institute on Resource Management and Scheduling > www.coregrid.net/irms > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Best regards Wolfgang Toshiyuki Nakata schrieb: > Hi: > 1)> AgreementSchemaTypes: >> wsa-Namespace is not used (should be removed) > > OK. > >> 2) wsrf-bf: fault section could be moved to wsdl, therefore >> eliminating the dependency to wsrf-bf in the xml-schema (only >> in wsdl). >> > > I am not sure whether below could be moved to wsdl or not. > Someone please comment. > > On the other hand, I remember someone (Karl?)pointing out that > we do not need this ContinuingFaultType at all? > > > > > > > > > > 3)> AgreementAcceptanceSchemaTypes: >> Namespaces wsa and wsrf-bf should be removed since they were >> not used in the schema. > > Uh.. do you mean Agreement Acceptance Port Type WSDL or Agreement State > Types Schema? > > Best Regards > Toshi. > > PS will there be a telecon tonight? > ----- > Toshiyuki Nakata ?????? > Executive Chief Engineer, Central Research Lab. NEC > 1753, Shimonumabe, Nakahara-Ku, > Kawasaki,Kanagawa 211-8666,Japan > Tel +81-44-431-7653 (NEC Internal 22-60035) > Fax +81-44-431-7609 (NEC Internal 22-60509) > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-graap-wg at ggf.org [mailto:owner-graap-wg at ggf.org] >> On Behalf Of Wolfgang Ziegler >> Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 10:49 PM >> To: Jim Pruyne; Nakata Toshi; GRAAP-WG >> Subject: [graap-wg] [Fwd: WSAG Draft] >> >> Dear all, >> >> Here are some comments from my colleague Oliver: >> >> >> >> Best regards >> >> Wolfgang >> >> -- >> Wolfgang Ziegler www.scai.fraunhofer.de/ziegler.html >> Fraunhofer-Institute for Algorithms and Scientific >> Computing (SCAI) >> Schloss Birlinghoven, D-53754 Sankt Augustin, Germany >> Tel: +49 2241 14 2258; Fax: +49 2241 14 42258 >> >> CoreGRID Network of Excellence www.coregrid.net >> Collaboration Gateway www.coregrid.net/cg >> Institute on Resource Management and Scheduling >> www.coregrid.net/irms >> -- Wolfgang Ziegler www.scai.fraunhofer.de/ziegler.html Fraunhofer-Institute for Algorithms and Scientific Computing (SCAI) Schloss Birlinghoven, D-53754 Sankt Augustin, Germany Tel: +49 2241 14 2258; Fax: +49 2241 14 42258 CoreGRID Network of Excellence www.coregrid.net Collaboration Gateway www.coregrid.net/cg Institute on Resource Management and Scheduling www.coregrid.net/irms -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature Size: 2093 bytes Desc: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Url : http://www.ogf.org/pipermail/graap-wg/attachments/20060802/f98e5aa2/attachment.bin From Oliver.Waeldrich at scai.fraunhofer.de Wed Aug 2 06:41:23 2006 From: Oliver.Waeldrich at scai.fraunhofer.de (=?utf-8?Q?Oliver_W=C3=A4ldrich?=) Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 13:41:23 +0200 Subject: [graap-wg] [Fwd: WSAG Draft] In-Reply-To: <000a01c6b60d$25549c90$ab84380a@ISIBASI> Message-ID: <00f001c6b628$95371540$51851a81@gelbwurz> Hi Toshi, To 2.) The ContinuingFaultType is used in the AgreementFactory and the PendingAgreementFactory. Therefore it could/would make sense to leave it in the schema if it will be present in the final version (I don't know what the opinion of the others to the ContinuingFault topic is). But since the faults are more related to the specific port types respective the definition of its operation than to the Agreement protocol itself, I see the fault definition more in the wsdl files (at least this is just a question of flavor). By the way, in e.g. the wsrf specification they have chosen a different way, they created just separate schema and wsdl-files, where all the wsrf-bf derived custom faults (e.g. ResourceUnknown, ResourceUnavailable) are specified. To 3.) With this I meant the Agreement State Types Schema. WSRF-BaseFaults and WS-Addressing are not referenced in the schema (and should be removed). Best Regards Oliver -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- Von: owner-graap-wg at ggf.org [mailto:owner-graap-wg at ggf.org] Im Auftrag von Toshiyuki Nakata Gesendet: Mittwoch, 2. August 2006 10:25 An: 'Wolfgang Ziegler'; 'Jim Pruyne'; 'GRAAP-WG' Betreff: RE: [graap-wg] [Fwd: WSAG Draft] Hi: 1)> AgreementSchemaTypes: > wsa-Namespace is not used (should be removed) OK. >2) wsrf-bf: fault section could be moved to wsdl, therefore > eliminating the dependency to wsrf-bf in the xml-schema (only > in wsdl). > I am not sure whether below could be moved to wsdl or not. Someone please comment. On the other hand, I remember someone (Karl?)pointing out that we do not need this ContinuingFaultType at all? 3)> AgreementAcceptanceSchemaTypes: > Namespaces wsa and wsrf-bf should be removed since they were > not used in the schema. Uh.. do you mean Agreement Acceptance Port Type WSDL or Agreement State Types Schema? Best Regards Toshi. PS will there be a telecon tonight? ----- Toshiyuki Nakata ?????? Executive Chief Engineer, Central Research Lab. NEC 1753, Shimonumabe, Nakahara-Ku, Kawasaki,Kanagawa 211-8666,Japan Tel +81-44-431-7653 (NEC Internal 22-60035) Fax +81-44-431-7609 (NEC Internal 22-60509) > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-graap-wg at ggf.org [mailto:owner-graap-wg at ggf.org] > On Behalf Of Wolfgang Ziegler > Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 10:49 PM > To: Jim Pruyne; Nakata Toshi; GRAAP-WG > Subject: [graap-wg] [Fwd: WSAG Draft] > > Dear all, > > Here are some comments from my colleague Oliver: > > > > Best regards > > Wolfgang > > -- > Wolfgang Ziegler www.scai.fraunhofer.de/ziegler.html > Fraunhofer-Institute for Algorithms and Scientific > Computing (SCAI) > Schloss Birlinghoven, D-53754 Sankt Augustin, Germany > Tel: +49 2241 14 2258; Fax: +49 2241 14 42258 > > CoreGRID Network of Excellence www.coregrid.net > Collaboration Gateway www.coregrid.net/cg > Institute on Resource Management and Scheduling > www.coregrid.net/irms > From karlcz at univa.com Wed Aug 2 07:10:09 2006 From: karlcz at univa.com (Karl Czajkowski) Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 19:10:09 +0700 Subject: [graap-wg] [Fwd: WSAG Draft] In-Reply-To: <000a01c6b60d$25549c90$ab84380a@ISIBASI> References: <44C772D3.2040906@scai.fraunhofer.de> <000a01c6b60d$25549c90$ab84380a@ISIBASI> Message-ID: <20060802121009.GY23335@moraine.localdomain> On Aug 02, Toshiyuki Nakata modulated: ... > On the other hand, I remember someone (Karl?)pointing out that > we do not need this ContinuingFaultType at all? > > > > > > > > > Yes, I said we do not need this. It was introduced when we had a negotiation interface (offers and counter-offers) to distinguish between a problem in one message versus a problem in the resource. A non-continuing fault indicated that the negotation resource was effectively "dead" and no further offers would be accepted in the context of that WS Resource by the party that generated the non-continuing fault. We have no such stateful negotiation in WS-Agreement at this point, AND it seems a pretty sophisticated way to model faults considering we've done so little to model them in every other way... karl -- Karl Czajkowski karlcz at univa.com From mumtaz at dps.uibk.ac.at Sun Aug 27 09:54:01 2006 From: mumtaz at dps.uibk.ac.at (Mumtaz Siddiqui) Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 14:54:01 +0000 Subject: [graap-wg] WSAG schema to java stubs: a confusion Message-ID: <44F1B209.8000300@dps.uibk.ac.at> Hi, There is a confusion between schema description and generated Java stubs. According to the WSAG specifications, multiple ServiceDescriptionTerms and Preferences can be defined/described as shown in appendix 2/3 examples. But, when we generate Java stubs (using WSDL2Java emmiter or castor), the generated stubs provide these fields as single element instead of array or vector. For examle TermCompositorType class: public class TermCompositorType implements java.io.Serializable { private org.ggf.wsag.TermCompositorType exactlyOne; private org.ggf.wsag.TermCompositorType oneOrMore; private org.ggf.wsag.TermCompositorType all; private org.ggf.wsag.ServiceDescriptionTermType serviceDescriptionTerm; //???? Should not it array like ServiceDescriptionTermType[]???? private org.ggf.wsag.ServiceReferenceType serviceReference; private org.ggf.wsag.ServicePropertiesType serviceProperties; private org.ggf.wsag.GuaranteeTermType guaranteeTerm; public TermCompositorType() { } ... } Here I expect ServiceDescriptionTermType[] instead of ServiceDescriptionTermType. probably, here we can use domain specific terms like JobDefinition from JSDL as JobDefinition_Type[] jdefs = new JobDefinition_Type[2]; jdefs[0] = new JobDefinition_Type(); jdefs[1] = new JobDefinition_Type(); sdterm.set_any(AnyHelper.toAnyArray(jdefs)); sdterm.setServiceName(new NCName("job1")); In this case the serialized XML document does not look like as expected! See the serialized form below: .... .... Similarly, in case of BusinessValueListType class public class BusinessValueListType implements java.io.Serializable { private java.lang.Integer importance; private org.ggf.wsag.CompensationType[] penalty; private org.ggf.wsag.CompensationType[] reward; private org.ggf.wsag.PreferenceType preference; <<<<< All, Our August hiatus is pretty much over, and GGF is only two weeks away, so I would like to continue our telecons starting on the 30th at the usual time and numbers: 9:00AM Central Daylight Time US (UTC-5) which should be: 10:00AM Eastern Daylight Time US 1500 UK 1600 Germany 2300 Japan 2100 Thailand Phone Number: 866-673-8466 in the US. 702-477-6031 for those outside the US. Conference code #8578310. My goal is to get the group talking again, and firm up the plans for GGF. Thanks. --- Jim From Wolfgang.Ziegler at scai.fraunhofer.de Wed Aug 30 02:33:16 2006 From: Wolfgang.Ziegler at scai.fraunhofer.de (Wolfgang Ziegler) Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 09:33:16 +0200 Subject: [graap-wg] telecon on Aug 30 In-Reply-To: <44F52C06.9050402@hp.com> References: <44F52C06.9050402@hp.com> Message-ID: <44F53F3C.2020906@scai.fraunhofer.de> Jim, as I am attending the EuroPar Conference this week I am not sure whether I am able to dial in. But I will try ;-) Best regards Wolfgang Jim Pruyne schrieb: > All, > > Our August hiatus is pretty much over, and GGF is only two weeks away, > so I would like to continue our telecons starting on the 30th at the > usual time and numbers: > > 9:00AM Central Daylight Time US (UTC-5) > which should be: > 10:00AM Eastern Daylight Time US > 1500 UK > 1600 Germany > 2300 Japan > 2100 Thailand > > Phone Number: 866-673-8466 in the US. 702-477-6031 for those outside the > US. > Conference code #8578310. > > My goal is to get the group talking again, and firm up the plans for GGF. > > Thanks. > > --- Jim > -- Wolfgang Ziegler www.scai.fraunhofer.de/ziegler.html Fraunhofer-Institute for Algorithms and Scientific Computing (SCAI) Schloss Birlinghoven, D-53754 Sankt Augustin, Germany Tel: +49 2241 14 2258; Fax: +49 2241 14 42258 CoreGRID Network of Excellence www.coregrid.net Collaboration Gateway www.coregrid.net/cg Institute on Resource Management and Scheduling www.coregrid.net/irms -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Best regards Wolfgang -- Wolfgang Ziegler www.scai.fraunhofer.de/ziegler.html Fraunhofer-Institute for Algorithms and Scientific Computing (SCAI) Schloss Birlinghoven, D-53754 Sankt Augustin, Germany Tel: +49 2241 14 2258; Fax: +49 2241 14 42258 CoreGRID Network of Excellence www.coregrid.net Collaboration Gateway www.coregrid.net/cg Institute on Resource Management and Scheduling www.coregrid.net/irms -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: ws-agreement-workshop-schedule.txt Url: http://www.ogf.org/pipermail/graap-wg/attachments/20060830/72c1f55b/attachment.txt -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I'll try again Best Regards Toshi > All, > > Our August hiatus is pretty much over, and GGF is only two weeks away, > so I would like to continue our telecons starting on the 30th at the > usual time and numbers: > > 9:00AM Central Daylight Time US (UTC-5) > which should be: > 10:00AM Eastern Daylight Time US > 1500 UK > 1600 Germany > 2300 Japan > 2100 Thailand > > Phone Number: 866-673-8466 in the US. 702-477-6031 for those outside the > US. > Conference code #8578310. > > My goal is to get the group talking again, and firm up the plans for GGF. > > Thanks. > > --- Jim > ------- NEC ???????????? ?????? Toshiyuki Nakata Executive Chief Engineer Central Research Laboratories NEC Corporation +81-44-431-7653 From Wolfgang.Ziegler at scai.fraunhofer.de Wed Aug 30 09:20:40 2006 From: Wolfgang.Ziegler at scai.fraunhofer.de (Wolfgang Ziegler) Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 16:20:40 +0200 Subject: [graap-wg] telecon on Aug 30 In-Reply-To: References: <44F52C06.9050402@hp.com> Message-ID: <44F59EB8.6090209@scai.fraunhofer.de> Hi Toshi, I used the number I stored in skype, it seems to be the same as the one in the mail. I got the message that the conference has not yet begun... Best regards Wolfgang t-nakata at cw.jp.nec.com schrieb: > Hi: Is the phone number correct? > I got the phone no. error. > I'll try again > Best Regards > Toshi > >> All, >> >> Our August hiatus is pretty much over, and GGF is only two weeks away, >> so I would like to continue our telecons starting on the 30th at the >> usual time and numbers: >> >> 9:00AM Central Daylight Time US (UTC-5) >> which should be: >> 10:00AM Eastern Daylight Time US >> 1500 UK >> 1600 Germany >> 2300 Japan >> 2100 Thailand >> >> Phone Number: 866-673-8466 in the US. 702-477-6031 for those outside the >> US. >> Conference code #8578310. >> >> My goal is to get the group talking again, and firm up the plans for GGF. >> >> Thanks. >> >> --- Jim >> > > ------- > NEC ???????????? > ?????? > Toshiyuki Nakata > Executive Chief Engineer > Central Research Laboratories > NEC Corporation > +81-44-431-7653 > -- Wolfgang Ziegler www.scai.fraunhofer.de/ziegler.html Fraunhofer-Institute for Algorithms and Scientific Computing (SCAI) Schloss Birlinghoven, D-53754 Sankt Augustin, Germany Tel: +49 2241 14 2258; Fax: +49 2241 14 42258 CoreGRID Network of Excellence www.coregrid.net Collaboration Gateway www.coregrid.net/cg Institute on Resource Management and Scheduling www.coregrid.net/irms -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: Aug3006-minutes.txt Url: http://www.ogf.org/pipermail/graap-wg/attachments/20060830/4c77c2e6/attachment.txt From jim_pruyne at hp.com Wed Aug 30 09:50:55 2006 From: jim_pruyne at hp.com (Jim Pruyne) Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 09:50:55 -0500 Subject: [graap-wg] GRAAP Sessions at GGF18 Message-ID: <44F5A5CF.5050808@hp.com> All, Here's a reminder on the sessions we have scheduled at the next GGF: * Monday at 10:30 status and follow-on * Monday at 2:00 on Interoperability * Monday at 4:00 on Dynamic Agreements and Negotiation I hope to see as many people as possible at these. Also, the interoperability workshop will be on Sunday as Wolfgang sent out earlier. We expect that some of the discussion in the two later sessions will be continued from the workshop, so I hope that people will come to those sessions with issues to discuss. Similarly, the first session will largely be dedicated to determining what activities GRAAP should begin after the spec. is complete, so I hope that people will bring their ideas to those sessions. Anyone who has specific ideas they would like to present should feel free to contact me and Wolfgang to let us know what session you'd like time at, and what you'd like to present. We'll do our best to accommodate any of these requests. Thanks. --- Jim