From jim_pruyne at hp.com  Wed Sep  7 10:20:36 2005
From: jim_pruyne at hp.com (Jim Pruyne)
Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2005 10:20:36 -0500
Subject: [graap-wg] [Fwd: EMS session agenda (Re: Proposed agenda for Sept. 7th call)]
Message-ID: <431F0544.1070706@hp.com>

Details on today's OGSA telecon at which we'll be presenting WS-Agreement.

--- Jim

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: 	EMS session agenda (Re: Proposed agenda for Sept. 7th call)
Date: 	Wed, 07 Sep 2005 16:07:52 +0900
From: 	Hiro Kishimoto <hiro.kishimoto at jp.fujitsu.com>
Organization: 	Fujitsu
To: 	Andrew Grimshaw <grimshaw at cs.virginia.edu>, "Subramaniam, Ravi" 
<ravi.subramaniam at intel.com>
CC: 	Milojicic, Dejan <dejan at exch.hpl.hp.com>, Stuart Schaefer 
<Sschaefer at softricity.com>, Michael Behrens <behrens at r2ad.com>, Jim 
Pruyne <jim_pruyne at hp.com>, Nakata Toshi <t-nakata at cw.jp.nec.com>
References: 	<431BE9C3.50602 at jp.fujitsu.com>



Hi Andrew and Ravi,

Main agenda item of this Wednesday call is "EMS architecture
discussion." Can you draw up detailed agenda and ask expected
attendees to bring necessary materials before the call?

FYI: Attached is email exchange with Jim.

Thanks,
----
Hiro Kishimoto

Hiro Kishimoto wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> This Monday is US Labor day and we won't have a call.
> 
> The following is a proposed agenda for OGSA-WG telecon on Sept. 7th.
> Wednesday from 5pm to 7pm (CDT).
> 
> Dial-in numbers for Wednesday:
>   Free: +1-888-452-0308
>   Intl/Toll: +1-484-644-0505
>   PIN:  71815
> 
> Screen share service will be provided.
>   URL:         http://ogsa.glance.net
>   Session key: 0907
> See more explanation:
> http://www-unix.gridforum.org/mail_archive/ogsa-wg/2004/06/msg00077.html
> 
> 1) Early discussion (20 min)
>         Note taker assignment
>         Roll call
>         Telecon minutes approval (August 31st)
> https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/ogsa-wg/document/minutes-20050831/en/1
>         Winter F2F meeting update
>         OGSA WSRF Basic Profile 1.0 final call
>         Agenda bashing
> 
> 2) EMS architecture discussion (90 min)
>         Andrew and Ravi will send out detailed agenda before the call.
> 
>  From F2F meeting minutes:
> 
>>    - Agreed to define one or two scenarios and go through them to
>>      explore interactions between the various 'pieces'
>>      - Volunteers: Andrew, Jay, Ravi, Stuart, Mike
>>      - Goal to present something by GGF15. But need to produce
>>        something before that.    - Agreed to continue the work on the 
>> OGSA teleconferences.
> 
> 
>  From Toshi Nakata @ GRAAP-WG
> 
>> We in GRAAP feel that WS-Agreement has a very important role in the
> 
>  > OGSA world. (I hope you have that perspective also.) Since the newer
>  > draft of the WS-Agrement is close to the 2nd public review,
> 
>> we were wondering how we should discuss the role of WS-Agreement in
> 
>  > OGSA esp. in OGSA-EMS.
> 
> 3) Wrap up (10 min)
>         AOB
> 
> Sept. 12 (Mon) Basic security profile, roadmap document
> Sept. 14 (Wed) Architecture 1.5 (Profile Definition?)
> Sept. 19 (Mon) Information Modeling
> ----
> Hiro Kishimoto
> 
> 
> 





From jim_pruyne at hp.com  Wed Sep  7 11:59:36 2005
From: jim_pruyne at hp.com (Jim Pruyne)
Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2005 11:59:36 -0500
Subject: [graap-wg] minutes from Sept. 7 telecon
Message-ID: <431F1C78.5090904@hp.com>

They are attached.  We should meet next week at the usual times.

--- Jim


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From jim_pruyne at hp.com  Wed Sep  7 13:43:19 2005
From: jim_pruyne at hp.com (Jim Pruyne)
Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2005 13:43:19 -0500
Subject: [graap-wg] [Fwd: Re: [ggf-office] XML Schema locations]
Message-ID: <431F34C7.6070109@hp.com>

Info on choosing xml namespaces is here.  It's only draft, but if we can 
get compliance with this, it seems like the right thing to do.

--- Jim

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: 	Re: [ggf-office] XML Schema locations
Date: 	Wed, 07 Sep 2005 13:26:24 -0500
From: 	Steve Crumb <scrumb at ggf.org>
To: 	Jim Pruyne <jim_pruyne at hp.com>, office at ggf.org
References: 	<431F2C5C.7090005 at hp.com>



Jim,

There is a document that is nearing public comment that can be downloaded at:
https://forge.gridforum.org/tracker/download.php?group_id=90&atid=414&file_id=655&aid=1570

I *think* this document will answer your question.  If not, let me know.

Steve



At 01:07 PM 9/7/2005, Jim Pruyne wrote:
>When writing XML Schema, we typically need to provide a URI to identify 
>the schema namespace.  By convention, this is usually a URL where the 
>schema is actually located so it can be downloaded by people to inspect or 
>by tooling.  Does GGF have any plans to manage these URI's and host schema 
>for working groups who's specs. include XML schema?  Is there a guideline 
>for how the URI should be formatted and how they are allocated to the groups?
>
>Thanks.
>
>--- Jim


Steve Crumb
Executive Director, Global Grid Forum
+1 630-252-8610 (Office)
+1 630-915-3324 (Cell)
scrumb at ggf.org 





From hludwig at us.ibm.com  Wed Sep  7 14:05:26 2005
From: hludwig at us.ibm.com (Heiko Ludwig)
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2005 15:05:26 -0400
Subject: [graap-wg] [Fwd: Re: [ggf-office] XML Schema locations]
In-Reply-To: <431F34C7.6070109@hp.com>
Message-ID: <OF6BAF6B4E.379471EB-ON85257075.0068B9AC-85257075.0068DE19@us.ibm.com>

That's the formatting and picking a namespace, not the location 
information issue ...

now, stick with wsag or go to graap? What if we produce more than one spec 
(negotiation, claiming etc.) Propose wsag, since more meaningful.

Heiko


-----
Heiko Ludwig, Dr. rer. pol.
IBM TJ Watson Research Center, PO Box 704, Yorktown, NY, 10598
hludwig at us.ibm.com, tel. +1 914 784 7160,  mob. +1 646 675 8469
http://www.research.ibm.com/people/h/hludwig/





Jim Pruyne <jim_pruyne at hp.com> 
Sent by: owner-graap-wg at ggf.org
09/07/2005 02:43 PM

To
GRAAP-WG <graap-wg at gridforum.org>
cc

Subject
[graap-wg] [Fwd: Re: [ggf-office] XML Schema locations]






Info on choosing xml namespaces is here.  It's only draft, but if we can 
get compliance with this, it seems like the right thing to do.

--- Jim

-------- Original Message --------
Subject:                 Re: [ggf-office] XML Schema locations
Date:            Wed, 07 Sep 2005 13:26:24 -0500
From:            Steve Crumb <scrumb at ggf.org>
To:              Jim Pruyne <jim_pruyne at hp.com>, office at ggf.org
References:              <431F2C5C.7090005 at hp.com>



Jim,

There is a document that is nearing public comment that can be downloaded 
at:
https://forge.gridforum.org/tracker/download.php?group_id=90&atid=414&file_id=655&aid=1570


I *think* this document will answer your question.  If not, let me know.

Steve



At 01:07 PM 9/7/2005, Jim Pruyne wrote:
>When writing XML Schema, we typically need to provide a URI to identify 
>the schema namespace.  By convention, this is usually a URL where the 
>schema is actually located so it can be downloaded by people to inspect 
or 
>by tooling.  Does GGF have any plans to manage these URI's and host 
schema 
>for working groups who's specs. include XML schema?  Is there a guideline 

>for how the URI should be formatted and how they are allocated to the 
groups?
>
>Thanks.
>
>--- Jim


Steve Crumb
Executive Director, Global Grid Forum
+1 630-252-8610 (Office)
+1 630-915-3324 (Cell)
scrumb at ggf.org 



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From hludwig at us.ibm.com  Wed Sep  7 14:18:55 2005
From: hludwig at us.ibm.com (Heiko Ludwig)
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2005 15:18:55 -0400
Subject: [graap-wg] [Fwd: Re: [ggf-office] XML Schema locations]
In-Reply-To: <431F34C7.6070109@hp.com>
Message-ID: <OFF252929D.6A07DD0B-ON85257075.006A001E-85257075.006A1A25@us.ibm.com>

In the light of this discussion and to find a fast solution for our 
concluding spec work, I propose the name space 

http://schemas.ggf.org/graap/2005/08/ws-agreement 

for the current spec.

Heiko

-----
Heiko Ludwig, Dr. rer. pol.
IBM TJ Watson Research Center, PO Box 704, Yorktown, NY, 10598
hludwig at us.ibm.com, tel. +1 914 784 7160,  mob. +1 646 675 8469
http://www.research.ibm.com/people/h/hludwig/





Jim Pruyne <jim_pruyne at hp.com> 
Sent by: owner-graap-wg at ggf.org
09/07/2005 02:43 PM

To
GRAAP-WG <graap-wg at gridforum.org>
cc

Subject
[graap-wg] [Fwd: Re: [ggf-office] XML Schema locations]






Info on choosing xml namespaces is here.  It's only draft, but if we can 
get compliance with this, it seems like the right thing to do.

--- Jim

-------- Original Message --------
Subject:                 Re: [ggf-office] XML Schema locations
Date:            Wed, 07 Sep 2005 13:26:24 -0500
From:            Steve Crumb <scrumb at ggf.org>
To:              Jim Pruyne <jim_pruyne at hp.com>, office at ggf.org
References:              <431F2C5C.7090005 at hp.com>



Jim,

There is a document that is nearing public comment that can be downloaded 
at:
https://forge.gridforum.org/tracker/download.php?group_id=90&atid=414&file_id=655&aid=1570


I *think* this document will answer your question.  If not, let me know.

Steve



At 01:07 PM 9/7/2005, Jim Pruyne wrote:
>When writing XML Schema, we typically need to provide a URI to identify 
>the schema namespace.  By convention, this is usually a URL where the 
>schema is actually located so it can be downloaded by people to inspect 
or 
>by tooling.  Does GGF have any plans to manage these URI's and host 
schema 
>for working groups who's specs. include XML schema?  Is there a guideline 

>for how the URI should be formatted and how they are allocated to the 
groups?
>
>Thanks.
>
>--- Jim


Steve Crumb
Executive Director, Global Grid Forum
+1 630-252-8610 (Office)
+1 630-915-3324 (Cell)
scrumb at ggf.org 



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From hludwig at us.ibm.com  Wed Sep  7 14:46:50 2005
From: hludwig at us.ibm.com (Heiko Ludwig)
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2005 15:46:50 -0400
Subject: [graap-wg] GRAAP Version for 2nd comments period assembled
Message-ID: <OFE7C363F2.913171C0-ON85257075.006BF8DA-85257075.006CA7DB@us.ibm.com>

Dear GRAAP members,

we assembled a new version for the 2nd comments period. Jim will put the 
document on its administrative paths and on the Web site. Please find 
attached the word document, a pdf, and the separate WSDL and schema files.

Some last minute notes:

- I set the ws-agreement namespace to 
http://schemas.ggf.org/graap/2005/9/ws-agreement
- In the document, all schema locations are set to local files
- I adapted the example location pointers to the new example

Regards,
Heiko





-----
Heiko Ludwig, Dr. rer. pol.
IBM TJ Watson Research Center, PO Box 704, Yorktown, NY, 10598
hludwig at us.ibm.com, tel. +1 914 784 7160,  mob. +1 646 675 8469
http://www.research.ibm.com/people/h/hludwig/

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From nakata at mtg.biglobe.ne.jp  Wed Sep  7 18:51:38 2005
From: nakata at mtg.biglobe.ne.jp (Toshiyuki Nakata)
Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2005 08:51:38 +0900
Subject: [graap-wg] GRAAP Version for 2nd comments period assembled
In-Reply-To: <OFE7C363F2.913171C0-ON85257075.006BF8DA-85257075.006CA7DB@us.ibm.com>
References: <OFE7C363F2.913171C0-ON85257075.006BF8DA-85257075.006CA7DB@us.ibm.com>
Message-ID: <431F7D0A.8040008@mtg.biglobe.ne.jp>

Dear Heiko:

Thank you very much for the update.

1)My update seems to have been lost. (P6/7, & P.40)(I've resurrected 
them in the attached spec) Please see whether they are appropriate or 
not and if not appropriate, delete them.

2)One last question on p.79
  Could someone explain why this is SDT & NOT
wsag:ServiceReference?

Best Regards
Toshi:

Heiko Ludwig wrote:
> 
> Dear GRAAP members,
> 
> we assembled a new version for the 2nd comments period. Jim will put the 
> document on its administrative paths and on the Web site. Please find 
> attached the word document, a pdf, and the separate WSDL and schema files.
> 
> Some last minute notes:
> 
> - I set the ws-agreement namespace to 
> http://schemas.ggf.org/graap/2005/9/ws-agreement
> - In the document, all schema locations are set to local files
> - I adapted the example location pointers to the new example
> 
> Regards,
> Heiko
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----
> Heiko Ludwig, Dr. rer. pol.
> IBM TJ Watson Research Center, PO Box 704, Yorktown, NY, 10598
> hludwig at us.ibm.com, tel. +1 914 784 7160,  mob. +1 646 675 8469
> http://www.research.ibm.com/people/h/hludwig/
> 

-- 
Toshiyuki Nakata
t-nakata at cw.jp.nec.com
+81-44-431-7653
(NEC Internal 8-22-60210)
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From hiro.kishimoto at jp.fujitsu.com  Wed Sep  7 19:57:56 2005
From: hiro.kishimoto at jp.fujitsu.com (Hiro Kishimoto)
Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2005 09:57:56 +0900
Subject: [graap-wg] EMS related materials
Message-ID: <431F8C94.1010200@jp.fujitsu.com>

Hi all,

Thank you very much for joining EMS discussion today.

The following is pointers to the materials we've mentioned
during the call. Please have a look and post your comments and
questions to the ogsa-wg list. We will have another EMS call
on next Wednesday (Sept. 14).

(1) Jim Pruyne's presentation "WS-Agreement Overview for OGSA"
https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/ogsa-wg/document/WS-AgreementForOGSAIntro/en/1

(2) CDDLM foundation document (see section 4 "use cases")
http://www.gridforum.org/documents/GFD.50.pdf

(3) three EMS sequence diagrams drawn at August F2F
https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/ogsa-wg/document/OGSA-2005-08-RM-scenario-1/
https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/ogsa-wg/document/OGSA-2005-08-RM-scenario-2/
https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/ogsa-wg/document/OGSA-2005-08-RM-scenario-3/

(4) Basic EM profile proposal at GGF13
https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/ogsa-wg/document/GGF13_basic_EM_profile/en/2
https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/ogsa-wg/document/ggf13-minutes-session-4/en/1

Thanks,
-- 
Hiro Kishimoto




From hludwig at us.ibm.com  Wed Sep  7 22:44:40 2005
From: hludwig at us.ibm.com (Heiko Ludwig)
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2005 23:44:40 -0400
Subject: [graap-wg] GRAAP Version for 2nd comments period assembled - revised
In-Reply-To: <431F7D0A.8040008@mtg.biglobe.ne.jp>
Message-ID: <OF6611C067.0EA84D58-ON85257076.001413A8-85257076.00149044@us.ibm.com>

Toshi,

thank you for the clarification and sorry for the omissions. Please find 
attached the revised file. I accepted the changes and changed the p79 term 
to ServiceReference, as it should be.

Heiko



-----
Heiko Ludwig, Dr. rer. pol.
IBM TJ Watson Research Center, PO Box 704, Yorktown, NY, 10598
hludwig at us.ibm.com, tel. +1 914 784 7160,  mob. +1 646 675 8469
http://www.research.ibm.com/people/h/hludwig/



owner-graap-wg at ggf.org wrote on 09/07/2005 07:51:38 PM:

> Dear Heiko:
> 
> Thank you very much for the update.
> 
> 1)My update seems to have been lost. (P6/7, & P.40)(I've resurrected 
> them in the attached spec) Please see whether they are appropriate or 
> not and if not appropriate, delete them.
> 
> 2)One last question on p.79
>   Could someone explain why this is SDT & NOT
> wsag:ServiceReference?
> 
> Best Regards
> Toshi:
> 
> Heiko Ludwig wrote:
> > 
> > Dear GRAAP members,
> > 
> > we assembled a new version for the 2nd comments period. Jim will put 
the 
> > document on its administrative paths and on the Web site. Please find 
> > attached the word document, a pdf, and the separate WSDL and schema 
files.
> > 
> > Some last minute notes:
> > 
> > - I set the ws-agreement namespace to 
> > http://schemas.ggf.org/graap/2005/9/ws-agreement
> > - In the document, all schema locations are set to local files
> > - I adapted the example location pointers to the new example
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Heiko
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -----
> > Heiko Ludwig, Dr. rer. pol.
> > IBM TJ Watson Research Center, PO Box 704, Yorktown, NY, 10598
> > hludwig at us.ibm.com, tel. +1 914 784 7160,  mob. +1 646 675 8469
> > http://www.research.ibm.com/people/h/hludwig/
> > 
> 
> -- 
> Toshiyuki Nakata
> t-nakata at cw.jp.nec.com
> +81-44-431-7653
> (NEC Internal 8-22-60210)
> [attachment "WS-AgreementSpecificationDraft050907(TN com).doc" 
> deleted by Heiko Ludwig/Watson/IBM] 
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From jim_pruyne at hp.com  Thu Sep  8 11:51:44 2005
From: jim_pruyne at hp.com (Jim Pruyne)
Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2005 11:51:44 -0500
Subject: [graap-wg] [Fwd: RE: EMS session agenda (Re: Proposed agenda for Sept. 7th call)]
Message-ID: <43206C20.7040500@hp.com>

Here's the follow-up message from Ravi regarding my presentation on 
WS-Agreement on the OGSA telecon. yesterday.  I think the discussion 
went very well, and we're perhaps poised to interact more with them in 
EMS in the immediate future, and perhaps in other design teams in the 
future.

--- Jim

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: 	RE: EMS session agenda (Re: Proposed agenda for Sept. 7th call)
Date: 	Wed, 7 Sep 2005 17:35:55 -0700
From: 	Subramaniam, Ravi <ravi.subramaniam at intel.com>
To: 	Jim Pruyne <jim_pruyne at hp.com>, Hiro Kishimoto 
<hiro.kishimoto at jp.fujitsu.com>, Ogsa-Wg <ogsa-wg at gridforum.org>
CC: 	Andrew Grimshaw <grimshaw at cs.virginia.edu>, Milojicic, Dejan 
<dejan at hpl.hp.com>, Stuart Schaefer <Sschaefer at softricity.com>, Michael 
Behrens <behrens at r2ad.com>, Nakata Toshi <t-nakata at cw.jp.nec.com>



Hi,

Here is a synopsis of the agreed next steps from today's OGSA telephone
meeting. Attendees, please review and update as required.

GRAAP:
Jim: Thanks again for the introduction to WS-Agreement today. We
appreciate your taking time to engage. 

I would like to reiterate the couple of areas of focus we had discussed
at the F2F 
a. Understand the domain terms that may apply in agreements in a
specific EMS scenario (BES?)
b. Look at how one might apply WS-Agreement to the multi-entity (for a
single operation) scenario that is EMS. (Cluster girds have a single
entity (scheduler?) to handle all resources and requests and so that
could fit the two party model of WS-Agreement but I was thinking of EMS
outside of this space where responsibility is distributed).

CDDLM:
Dejan/Stuart: Thanks for attending this session. Sorry for any mixup
here. I hope you did get something useful from Jim's presentation. Based
on our discussions around CDDLM, here is what I captured:

a. Hiro will send out the pointers to the interaction of EMS services
for the 3 scenarios that was developed at the last OGSA F2F.
b. Stuart will take a look and see how the CDDLM architecture would
address these scenarios and start and email thread in the OGSA mail
list.
c. Ravi would collect any difficult or long drawn discussion topics (as
suggested by the respondents) as agenda items for discussion at the next
OGSA telecom.
d. The OGSA WG will study the high level scenarios from CDDLM that were
the model for the CDDLM specs. Need to reconcile these into the EMS/OGSA
space.

We will *not* have a parallel small team meeting this week but will
schedule over the longer term (beyond GGF15) to do so as an ongoing
activity as we work to resolve the approaches.

Speaking for myself right now: I would suggest that an output of this
activity be the OGSA EMS diagram fleshed out with the provisioning
services from CDDLM (this could be either a blowing up of the
provisioning box or a refactoring that may be dictated by this joint
activity). Thoughts?


OGSA:

Anyone on the call today, please let me know if I have missed any of the
outcomes of the discussion here. Any other suggestions and topics for
discussions and/or focus with CDDLM and GRAAP are welcome.

Thanks!

Ravi




From jim_pruyne at hp.com  Fri Sep  9 16:19:30 2005
From: jim_pruyne at hp.com (Jim Pruyne)
Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2005 16:19:30 -0500
Subject: [graap-wg] [Fwd: [ogsa-wg] Notes from September 7 telecon]
Message-ID: <4321FC62.1070402@hp.com>

Herein is the link to the minutes from the ogsa telecon. from this past 
Wed. when I discussed WS-Agreement.

--- Jim

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: 	[ogsa-wg] Notes from September 7 telecon
Date: 	Fri, 9 Sep 2005 15:23:33 -0400
From: 	Treadwell, Jem <jem.treadwell at hp.com>
To: 	ogsa-wg <ogsa-wg at gridforum.org>



Hi, the notes from Wednesday's call are available at 
http://tinyurl.com/bu8ab.  These include Mark's notes from the first 
half of the meeting, my notes from the second half, and the excellent 
review that Ravi sent immediately after the meeting.
 
Thanks,
 
- Jem
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From ckotso at admin.grnet.gr  Tue Sep 13 04:43:09 2005
From: ckotso at admin.grnet.gr (Constantinos A. Kotsokalis)
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 12:43:09 +0300
Subject: [graap-wg] OneOrMore / ExactlyOne
Message-ID: <43269F2D.8090101@admin.grnet.gr>

Hi all,

A question regarding the two term compositors mentioned in the subject:
Should one expect that ExactlyOne is the non-greedy version of OneOrMore?
That is, should an implementation attempt to satisfy as many terms of a
OneOrMore compositor, whereas for an ExactlyOne compositor it would just
quit as soon as there is found a term which is successfully evaluated
/ executed?

In both cases, should it be a requirement for all terms to be valid
against the agreement constraints, even if there are terms who satisfy
them (the constraints) and were successfully evaluated / executed?

Or are the above completely implementation-specific?

Best regards,

  Costas





From hiro.kishimoto at jp.fujitsu.com  Thu Sep 15 05:52:12 2005
From: hiro.kishimoto at jp.fujitsu.com (Hiro Kishimoto)
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 19:52:12 +0900
Subject: [graap-wg] OGSA-WG F2F meeting back-to-back GGF14
Message-ID: <4329525C.5070202@jp.fujitsu.com>

Hi all, and sorry for the cross-posting.

OGSA-WG is planning to have F2F meeting in Boston, back-to-back with
GGF14. The meeting will be held on Thursday (9am-6pm) and Friday
(8am-3pm) at IBM office in Boston, walking distance from GGF15 venue.

The following is tentative agenda items we've listed up at Today's
OGSA-WG call.

- EMS architecture (CDDLM, ACS, GRAAP, RSS, JSDL, BES)
- OGSA-naming session
- Resource Management (info/data model)
- OGSA-BES session
- OGSA-data session (?)

If you want to have another session or any specific day/time
requirements on any of these sessions, please let me know.

I am sorry for this late notice. I am clumsy to organize this F2F
meeting since it is our first back-to-back one.

Thanks,
-- 
Hiro Kishimoto








From hiro.kishimoto at jp.fujitsu.com  Tue Sep 20 03:45:33 2005
From: hiro.kishimoto at jp.fujitsu.com (Hiro Kishimoto)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2005 17:45:33 +0900
Subject: [graap-wg] Survey for OGSA-WG F2F meeting back-to-back GGF15
Message-ID: <432FCC2D.5060509@jp.fujitsu.com>

Hi all, and sorry for the cross-posting again.

As you already know, OGSA-WG and fellow WGs are planning to have F2F
meeting in Boston, back-to-back with GGF15. The meeting will be held on 
Thursday (9am-6pm) and Friday (8am-3:30pm) at IBM office in Boston (it
is 2.2 miles away from GGF15 venue instead of walking distance).

Please keep it in mind that this F2F is workshop style technical
discussion. If you want to learn OGSA activities in general, "OGSA
Status and direction presentation session" on Oct. 3 (Mon) 11am-12:30pm
at Berkely/Clarendon room is the one you should join.

In order to obtain admission to the F2F venue, please let us know your
plan for attendance by answering the following on-line survey. Deadline
is EoB Friday (Sept. 23).

http://www.zoomerang.com/survey.zgi?p=WEB224MNGGSZFW

Thanks,
-- 
Hiro Kishimoto









From jim_pruyne at hp.com  Tue Sep 20 18:16:20 2005
From: jim_pruyne at hp.com (Jim Pruyne)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2005 18:16:20 -0500
Subject: [graap-wg] Telecon on 9/21
Message-ID: <43309844.80101@hp.com>

Folks,

We will hold a telecon on 9/21.  The times are numbers are the usual:

Start Time:
10:00 AM Central US
11:00 AM Eastern US
8:00 AM Pacific US
1700 Germany
1600 UK
Midnight Japan

Dial in numbers:  866-673-8466 or 702-477-6031 code 8578310.

The primary topic for this telecon will be plans for GGF the first week 
of Oct.  For those who cannot attend this telecon, please let me and the 
other chairs know if you plan to attend.  Particularly if we've 
discussed with you in the past about the possiblity of you speaking at 
this GGF.  I would like to get the roster of speakers finalized soon so 
that we can put the sessions together and give people an idea which 
session and how much time they will have.

thanks.

--- Jim




From jim_pruyne at hp.com  Tue Sep 20 18:17:12 2005
From: jim_pruyne at hp.com (Jim Pruyne)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2005 18:17:12 -0500
Subject: [graap-wg] Specification submitted
Message-ID: <43309878.2020306@hp.com>

All,

The updated version of the specification has been submitted to the GGF 
editor to enter public comment.  Thanks to all who contributed so much, 
particularly Heiko and Toshi who really pushed this thing at the end to 
become compete.

--- Jim




From Stephen.Pickles at manchester.ac.uk  Wed Sep 21 08:18:05 2005
From: Stephen.Pickles at manchester.ac.uk (Stephen M Pickles)
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 14:18:05 +0100
Subject: [graap-wg] Specification submitted
In-Reply-To: <43309878.2020306@hp.com>
Message-ID: <20050921141805280.00000000660@Wombat>

Great! Well done.

Stephen 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-graap-wg at ggf.org [mailto:owner-graap-wg at ggf.org] 
> On Behalf Of Jim Pruyne
> Sent: 21 September 2005 00:17
> To: GRAAP-WG
> Subject: [graap-wg] Specification submitted
> 
> All,
> 
> The updated version of the specification has been submitted to the GGF
> editor to enter public comment.  Thanks to all who 
> contributed so much,
> particularly Heiko and Toshi who really pushed this thing at 
> the end to
> become compete.
> 
> --- Jim
> 
> 
>