From jim_pruyne at hp.com Wed Nov 2 03:19:44 2005 From: jim_pruyne at hp.com (Jim Pruyne) Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 03:19:44 -0600 Subject: [graap-wg] No telecon on 11/2 Message-ID: <436884B0.9080201@hp.com> All, I will be out of the office, so there will be no telecon on 11/2. We can resume on 11/9 with our discussion of the comments thus far. There have been no new comments made since last week. --- Jim From t-nakata at cw.jp.nec.com Mon Nov 7 03:08:08 2005 From: t-nakata at cw.jp.nec.com (Toshiyuki Nakata) Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2005 18:08:08 +0900 Subject: [graap-wg] [Fwd: [ogsa-wg] Proposed agenda for Nov. 7th call] Message-ID: <436F1978.3070901@cw.jp.nec.com> Hi: This is just a reminder that OGSA-EMS people expect to have a Joint CDDLM/ACS/GRAAP Meeting on Nov. 9th. (If it is on the same time as on the Nov. 2nd call, then the time should be..) (Begin quote from Hiro's email) Wednesday from 4pm to 6pm (CST). *ATTENTION* From Oct. 31 and onward telecon starts one hour earlier 5pm EST = 4pm CST = 2pm PST = 10pm UK = 7am JST Dial-in numbers for Wednesday: Free: +1-888-452-0308 Intl/Toll: +1-484-644-0505 PIN: 71815 (# TN Seems to be different from the Dialin numbers for 7th Nov. call #Please cf. #https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/ogsa-wg/document/telecon_schedule/ #) Screen share service will be provided. URL: http://ogsa.glance.net (End quote) They've also made a composition roadmap "EMS team is working on "composition roadmap" https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/ogsa-wg/document/proposed-ems-roadmap/ Unfortunately, WS-agreement is not mentioned (yet).. Best Regards Toshi -------- Original Message -------- Hi all, The following is a proposed agenda for OGSA-WG telecon on Nov. 7th Monday from 4pm to 6pm (CST). *ATTENTION* From Oct. 31 and onward telecon starts one hour earlier 5pm EST = 4pm CST = 2pm PST = 10pm UK = 7am JST The dial-in number for Monday; Free: +1-866-639-4741 Toll: +1-574-935-6703 PIN: 8980700 Screen share service will be provided. URL: http://ogsa.glance.net Session key: 1107 See more explanation: http://www-unix.gridforum.org/mail_archive/ogsa-wg/2004/06/msg00077.html 1) Early discussion (10 min) Note taker assignment Roll call Telecon minutes approval (Nov. 2nd) https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/ogsa-wg/document/minutes-20051102/en/1 Agenda bashing 2) CDDLM/ACS/GRAAP joint call preparation (10 min) This Wednesday is a joint call with CDDLM/ACS/GRAAP in order to review progress after GGF15. EMS team needs to get ready for it. > From F2F minutes; > - Action: Agreed on two-pronged approach for CDDLM(+ACS) on one > side and EMS on the other to describe their approaches in > more detail and to then unify those approaches. (Note > these are 3 separate actions.) > - Action(1): CDDLM team volunteered to look into two issues that were > identified as requirements and report back in an OGSA call > 1. Where to draw the line in the (CDL) provisioning tree > (see above) > 2. How to provide the cost of configuration Dejan already sent out their discussion summary to the list; http://www-unix.gridforum.org/mail_archive/ogsa-wg/2005/10/msg00026.html > Actions(2): > - RSS-WG to produce abstract interface (and responsibilities) of EPS > and CSG. > - Clarify responsibilites/functionality of JM > - Andreas to send detailed EMS draft (pre OGSA 1.0) document to > Steven N. EMS team is working on "composition roadmap" https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/ogsa-wg/document/proposed-ems-roadmap/ > Action(3): Set up a team to explore WS_Agreements issues more, > especially relating to allocation and QoS assurance. And > come back to OGSA-WG on how to use WS-Agreement (possibly > evolved) with EMS. Clarify > - How WS-Agreement possibly needs to change to fit in OGSA > EMS > - Set the first review after 30 days; check what can be > done. > - Volunteers: Steven Newhouse (to lead), Dave Berry, Chris > Smith, (Jim Pruyne; not present >GRAAP-WG to confirm) 3) Common UML tool (20 min) > - Mike Behrens has some experience with a number of the listed > tools. He volunteered to check out the rest and give an > evaluation next week > - export/import as one required feature > > - One of the IBM participants will follow up and confirm the > procedures needed and that everyone can use the RSM tool, if the > group decides to go with it. 4) Basic Security Profile document review (60 min) Takuya will post revised draft before the call. 5) Glossary 1.5 discussion (20 min) Jem will lead several open issues in Glossary 1.5. 6) Wrap up (10 min) AOB Nov. 9 (Wed) EMS architecture, CDDLM/ACS/GRAAP joint call information model & CIM profile Nov. 14 (Mon) OGSA-AuthZ joint call Basic Security Profile document final review, Architecture & Glossary 1.5 Nov. 16 (Wed) EMS architecture, information model & CIM profile Telecon schedule: https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/ogsa-wg/document/telecon_schedule/ -- Hiro Kishimoto -- Toshiyuki Nakata ????? Chief Engineer, Central Research Lab. NEC 1753, Shimonumabe, Nakahara-Ku, Kawasaki,Kanagawa 211-8666,Japan Tel +81-44-431-7653 (NEC Internal 22-60035) Fax +81-44-431-7609 (NEC Internal 22-60509) From andreas.savva at jp.fujitsu.com Mon Nov 7 03:18:25 2005 From: andreas.savva at jp.fujitsu.com (Andreas Savva) Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2005 18:18:25 +0900 Subject: [graap-wg] [Fwd: [ogsa-wg] Proposed agenda for Nov. 7th call] In-Reply-To: <436F1978.3070901@cw.jp.nec.com> References: <436F1978.3070901@cw.jp.nec.com> Message-ID: <436F1BE1.5040206@jp.fujitsu.com> > (# TN Seems to be different from the Dialin numbers for 7th Nov. call OGSA-WG teleconference numbers and days/times are available on the OGSA project summary page on gridforge: https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/ogsa-wg/ The time of the Monday and Wednesday calls is the same but the dial-in numbers are different (different sponsors). Andreas Toshiyuki Nakata wrote: > Hi: > This is just a reminder that > OGSA-EMS people expect to have a Joint > > CDDLM/ACS/GRAAP Meeting on Nov. 9th. > (If it is on the same time as on the Nov. 2nd call, then the time should > be..) > > > (Begin quote from Hiro's email) > Wednesday from 4pm to 6pm (CST). > *ATTENTION* From Oct. 31 and onward telecon starts one hour earlier > 5pm EST = 4pm CST = 2pm PST = 10pm UK = 7am JST > > Dial-in numbers for Wednesday: > Free: +1-888-452-0308 > Intl/Toll: +1-484-644-0505 > PIN: 71815 > > (# TN Seems to be different from the Dialin numbers for 7th Nov. call > #Please cf. > #https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/ogsa-wg/document/telecon_schedule/ > #) > > Screen share service will be provided. > URL: http://ogsa.glance.net > (End quote) > > > They've also made a composition roadmap > > "EMS team is working on "composition roadmap" > https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/ogsa-wg/document/proposed-ems-roadmap/ > > Unfortunately, WS-agreement is not mentioned (yet).. > > Best Regards > Toshi -- Andreas Savva Fujitsu Laboratories Ltd From hiro.kishimoto at jp.fujitsu.com Tue Nov 8 19:21:30 2005 From: hiro.kishimoto at jp.fujitsu.com (Hiro Kishimoto) Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 10:21:30 +0900 Subject: [graap-wg] [ogsa-wg] Proposed agenda for Nov. 9th call (CDDLM/ACS/GRAAP joint call) Message-ID: <43714F1A.70209@jp.fujitsu.com> Hi all, Apologies for cross-posting *ATTENTION* From Oct. 31 and onward telecon starts one hour earlier 5pm EST = 4pm CST = 2pm PST = 10pm UK = 7am JST OGSA-WG revised charter draft has been accepted by GFSG with no change. Congratulations! https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/ogsa-wg/document/OGSA-WG-Charter-2005/en/3 The following is a proposed agenda for OGSA-WG telecon on Nov. 9th Wednesday from 4pm to 6pm (CST). Dial-in numbers for Wednesday: Free: +1-888-452-0308 Intl/Toll: +1-484-644-0505 PIN: 71815 Screen share service will be provided. URL: http://ogsa.glance.net Session key: 1109 See more explanation: http://www-unix.gridforum.org/mail_archive/ogsa-wg/2004/06/msg00077.html 1) Early discussion (10 min) Note taker assignment Roll call Telecon minutes approval (Nov. 7th) https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/ogsa-wg/document/minutes-20051107/en/1 Since SC05 is next week, can we have a quorum next week? Agenda bashing 2) CDDLM/ACS/GRAAP joint EMS discussion (60 min) > From F2F minutes; > - Action: Agreed on two-pronged approach for CDDLM(+ACS) on one > side and EMS on the other to describe their approaches in > more detail and to then unify those approaches. (Note > these are 3 separate actions.) > - Action(1): CDDLM team volunteered to look into two issues that > were identified as requirements and report back in an > OGSA call > 1. Where to draw the line in the (CDL) provisioning tree > (see above) > 2. How to provide the cost of configuration Dejan already sent out their discussion summary to the list; http://www-unix.gridforum.org/mail_archive/ogsa-wg/2005/10/msg00026.html OGSA-WG has already reviewed their summary (see Nov. 7 minutes) and will give these feedbacks to them. https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/ogsa-wg/document/minutes-20051107/en/1 > - Action (2): Andrew provide one paragraph describing his > expectations from the deployment component. (done) > Using this paragraph, CDDLM-WG provides a feedback on > how they match his expectations. Andrew's description; http://www-unix.gridforum.org/mail_archive/ogsa-wg/2005/11/msg00013.html > Actions(3): > - RSS-WG to produce abstract interface (and responsibilities) of EPS > and CSG. > - Clarify responsibilities/functionality of JM > - Andreas to send detailed EMS draft (pre OGSA 1.0) document to > Steven N. EMS team is working on "composition roadmap" https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/ogsa-wg/document/proposed-ems-roadmap/ > Action(4): Set up a team to explore WS_Agreements issues more, > especially relating to allocation and QoS assurance. And > come back to OGSA-WG on how to use WS-Agreement (possibly > evolved) with EMS. Clarify > - How WS-Agreement possibly needs to change to fit in OGSA > EMS > - Set the first review after 30 days; check what can be > done. > - Volunteers: Steven Newhouse (to lead), Dave Berry, Chris > Smith, (Jim Pruyne; not present >GRAAP-WG to confirm) 3) OGSA naming policy discussion (30 min) Tom will have the written proposal (agreed on the previous call) 4) Information model discussion (20 min) > Action: Andrew to review and point out what is needed for the > BES container > - Goal: A preliminary set of attributes that are > needed for the BES container 5) Common UML tool review (if time permit) > - Mike Behrens has some experience with a number of the listed > tools. He volunteered to check out the rest and give an > evaluation next week > - export/import as one required feature > > - One of the IBM participants will follow up and confirm the > procedures needed and that everyone can use the RSM tool, if the > group decides to go with it. 6) OGSA workshop at Israel Grid Alliance (if time permit) Steve Crumb ask us to send a rep to Tel Aviv before or after GGF16. > In my continued efforts to get an OGSA expert to Israel to discuss > the architecture to a primarily technical audience, Avner and I have > settled on the proposal of having an OGSA half-day workshop > immediately after (or before) the Athens event. This would allow for > someone to be roughly in the same geographic area making a quick, > one-day hop to Tel Aviv much more doable. 7) Wrap up AOB Nov. 14 (Mon) OGSA-AuthZ joint call Basic Security Profile document review, Architecture & Glossary 1.5 Nov. 16 (Wed) EMS architecture, information model & CIM profile Nov. 21 (Mon) Architecture & Glossary 1.5 Profile Definition Update Nov. 23 (Wed) NO call (Thanksgiving) Telecon schedule: https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/ogsa-wg/document/telecon_schedule/ -- Hiro Kishimoto From jim_pruyne at hp.com Wed Nov 9 01:07:46 2005 From: jim_pruyne at hp.com (Jim Pruyne) Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 01:07:46 -0600 Subject: [graap-wg] telecon reminder: 11/9 Message-ID: <4371A042.5070904@hp.com> All, We will have a telecon. on Wed. morning/evening at our new time one hour earlier for those who've recently changed from daylight savings time such as in the US. Dial-in numbers will be the same. The time is: 9:00AM Central Time US (GMT-0600, I think) which should be: 10:00AM Eastern Time US 1600 UK (?) 1700 Germany (?) midnight Japan 2200 Thailand Phone Number: 866-673-8466 in the US. 702-477-6031 for those outside the US. Conference code #8578310. --- Jim From Wolfgang.Ziegler at scai.fraunhofer.de Wed Nov 9 01:49:52 2005 From: Wolfgang.Ziegler at scai.fraunhofer.de (Wolfgang Ziegler) Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 08:49:52 +0100 Subject: [graap-wg] telecon reminder: 11/9 In-Reply-To: <4371A042.5070904@hp.com> References: <4371A042.5070904@hp.com> Message-ID: <4371AA20.9070302@scai.fraunhofer.de> 9:00AM Central Time US will be 1500 UK (GMT/UTC) 1600 Germany (GMT+1/UTC+1) Best regards Wolfgang Jim Pruyne wrote: > > All, > > We will have a telecon. on Wed. morning/evening at our new time one hour > earlier for those who've recently changed from daylight savings time > such as in the US. Dial-in numbers will be the same. The time is: > 9:00AM Central Time US (GMT-0600, I think) > which should be: > 10:00AM Eastern Time US > 1600 UK (?) > 1700 Germany (?) > midnight Japan > 2200 Thailand > > Phone Number: 866-673-8466 in the US. 702-477-6031 for those outside > the US. Conference code #8578310. > > --- Jim > -- Fraunhofer-Institute for Algorithms and Scientific Computing (SCAI) Schloss Birlinghoven, D-53754 Sankt Augustin, Germany Tel: +49 2241 14 2258 Fax: +49 2241 14 42258 http://www.scai.fraunhofer.de "Heut ist nicht so kalt wie gestern, trotzdem dass heut kaelter ist" -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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External Specification Spec Version Standards Body Status Is used for WS-ResourceProperties (WS-RF RP) Being Discussed in OASIS: Web Services Resource Framework (WSRF) TC Group: http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/tc_home.php?wg_abbrev=wsrf Evolving Institutional Resource properties on port types WS-Addressing Being Discussed in Web Services Addressing Working Group http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/addr/ Evolving Institutional End point references to resource-qualified services Web Services Resource Lifetime (WS-RF RLF) Being Discussed in OASIS: Web Services Resource Framework (WSRF) TC Group: http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/tc_home.php?wg_abbrev=wsrf Evolving Institutional Destroy Operation for resources Web Services Base Faults (WS-RF BF) Being Discussed in OASIS: Web Services Resource Framework (WSRF) TC Group: http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/tc_home.php?wg_abbrev=wsrf Evolving Institutional Defines the Basic faults The above seem to be OK. (2002/ws/addr is also not obsolete.) #Still strugling with the Namespaces Newest WS-Addressing seems to be http://www.w3.org/2005/08/addressing/ Best regards -- Toshiyuki Nakata ?????? Chief Engineer, Central Research Lab. NEC 1753, Shimonumabe, Nakahara-Ku, Kawasaki,Kanagawa 211-8666,Japan Tel +81-44-431-7653 (NEC Internal 22-60035) Fax +81-44-431-7609 (NEC Internal 22-60509) From t-nakata at cw.jp.nec.com Wed Nov 9 22:58:17 2005 From: t-nakata at cw.jp.nec.com (Toshiyuki Nakata) Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 13:58:17 +0900 Subject: [graap-wg] Re: Newest XML Schemas In-Reply-To: <4372CEAD.9040006@cw.jp.nec.com> References: <4371A042.5070904@hp.com> <437219AE.8080109@mtg.biglobe.ne.jp> <4372CEAD.9040006@cw.jp.nec.com> Message-ID: <4372D369.4030606@cw.jp.nec.com> Hi: Sorry about the table being impossible to read. (It had looked OK on my Nescape screen) >#Still strugling with the Namespaces >Newest WS-Addressing seems to be >http://www.w3.org/2005/08/addressing/ > > > Newest one for the WS-rf families seem to be as below. wsbf http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsrf/bf-2 wssg http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsrf/sg-2 wsrp http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsrf/rp-2 One snag: Prefixes used in those seem to follow the convention of x xmlns:wsrf-bf="http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsrf/bf-2" xmlns:wsrf-sg="http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsrf/sg-2" Should we follow the convention used here? (ie. wsrf-bf rather than wsbf etc.) Best Regards Toshi -- Toshiyuki Nakata ?????? Chief Engineer, Central Research Lab. NEC 1753, Shimonumabe, Nakahara-Ku, Kawasaki,Kanagawa 211-8666,Japan Tel +81-44-431-7653 (NEC Internal 22-60035) Fax +81-44-431-7609 (NEC Internal 22-60509) From jim_pruyne at hp.com Wed Nov 16 01:23:16 2005 From: jim_pruyne at hp.com (Jim Pruyne) Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 01:23:16 -0600 Subject: [graap-wg] telecon on 11/16 Message-ID: <437ADE64.5030106@hp.com> All, We will have a telecon. on Wed. morning/evening at our new time. We will want to discuss plans for GGF16 (already!), and update on the status of various comments from public comment. We can also review the updates Toshi's been making. Dial-in numbers will be the same. The time is: 9:00AM Central Time US (GMT-0600, I think) which should be: 10:00AM Eastern Time US 1500 UK 1600 Germany midnight Japan Phone Number: 866-673-8466 in the US. 702-477-6031 for those outside the US. Conference code #8578310. --- Jim From nakata at mtg.biglobe.ne.jp Wed Nov 16 05:51:13 2005 From: nakata at mtg.biglobe.ne.jp (Toshiyuki Nakata) Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 20:51:13 +0900 Subject: [graap-wg] telecon on 11/16 In-Reply-To: <437ADE64.5030106@hp.com> References: <437ADE64.5030106@hp.com> Message-ID: <437B1D31.2000302@mtg.biglobe.ne.jp> Hi: Jim:Thank you very much for the agenda.. I'll try to summraize my changes in the *.wsdl *.xsd below as it is difficult to explain some of them verbally. 1)What seems to have been changed in the current wsrf-rp. a)Official xmlns Prefix has preprefix named wsrf so that one can distinguish it from other definitions. (Not a real issue, but I see cases where it is better to follow the convention. b) *Two* name spaces one for xsd and one for wsdl(One for wsdl has a w appended in the name space). This really has impact as you have to carefully see where the original definition came from. please cf. below xmlns:wsrf-rp="http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsrf/rp-2" xmlns:wsrf-rpw="http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsrf/rpw-2" #My sincere thanks again to Mr. Kadonaga Tokuhisa of FUJITSU LIMITED for #pointing out some of the changes. Best Regards Toshi Jim Pruyne wrote: > All, > > We will have a telecon. on Wed. morning/evening at our new time. > We will want to discuss plans for GGF16 (already!), and update on the > status of various comments from public comment. We can also review the > updates Toshi's been making. > > Dial-in numbers will be the same. The time is: > 9:00AM Central Time US (GMT-0600, I think) > which should be: > 10:00AM Eastern Time US > 1500 UK > 1600 Germany > midnight Japan > > Phone Number: 866-673-8466 in the US. 702-477-6031 for those outside > the US. Conference code #8578310. > > --- Jim > > > -- Toshiyuki Nakata t-nakata at cw.jp.nec.com +81-44-431-7653 (NEC Internal 8-22-60210) From jim_pruyne at hp.com Wed Nov 16 09:15:57 2005 From: jim_pruyne at hp.com (Jim Pruyne) Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 09:15:57 -0600 Subject: [graap-wg] Plans for GGF16 Message-ID: <437B4D2D.1020105@hp.com> Folks, Registration for GGF16 is now open. See http://www.ggf.org/GGF16/ggf_events_ggf16.htm. This also means that the chairs need to begin to request sessions. We'd like to get a feel for how many of the group members will be there, and what topics you would like to see discussed. So if you could let at least me and Wolfgang know if you're planning to attend, that would help us know how many, and what sort of sessions to request. Thanks. --- Jim From t-nakata at cw.jp.nec.com Fri Nov 18 01:19:53 2005 From: t-nakata at cw.jp.nec.com (Toshiyuki Nakata) Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 16:19:53 +0900 Subject: [graap-wg] Updated the commentslist In-Reply-To: <437219AE.8080109@mtg.biglobe.ne.jp> References: <4371A042.5070904@hp.com> <437219AE.8080109@mtg.biglobe.ne.jp> Message-ID: <437D8099.9090504@cw.jp.nec.com> 1)One more comment added. 2)Discussion table reflects some of my editing of the draft (but not yet finalised.) Best regards Toshi -- Toshiyuki Nakata ?????? Chief Engineer, Central Research Lab. NEC 1753, Shimonumabe, Nakahara-Ku, Kawasaki,Kanagawa 211-8666,Japan Tel +81-44-431-7653 (NEC Internal 22-60035) Fax +81-44-431-7609 (NEC Internal 22-60509) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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We'd like to get a feel for how many of > the group members will be there, and what topics you would like to > see discussed. So if you could let at least me and Wolfgang know > if you're planning to attend, that would help us know how many, and > what sort of sessions to request. > > Thanks. > > --- Jim > From jim_pruyne at hp.com Wed Nov 23 02:27:32 2005 From: jim_pruyne at hp.com (Jim Pruyne) Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 02:27:32 -0600 Subject: [graap-wg] telecon reminder 11/23 Message-ID: <438427F4.8080900@hp.com> All, We will have a telecon. on Wed. morning/evening at our new time one hour earlier for those who've recently changed from daylight savings time such as in the US. Dial-in numbers will be the same. The time is: 9:00AM Central Time US (GMT-0600, I think) which should be: 10:00AM Eastern Time US 1600 UK (?) 1700 Germany (?) midnight Japan 2200 Thailand Phone Number: 866-673-8466 in the US. 702-477-6031 for those outside the US. Conference code #8578310. --- Jim