From nakata at mtg.biglobe.ne.jp Wed Jun 1 10:54:19 2005 From: nakata at mtg.biglobe.ne.jp (Toshiyuki Nakata) Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 00:54:19 +0900 Subject: [graap-wg] WS-Agreement spec In-Reply-To: <4294B2A3.3010603@hp.com> References: <4294B2A3.3010603@hp.com> Message-ID: <429DDA2B.8040500@mtg.biglobe.ne.jp> Hi: Could some one please tell me the URL of the newest draft of the spec so that I can check? Best Regards Toshi -- Toshiyuki Nakata t-nakata at cw.jp.nec.com +81-44-431-7653 (NEC Internal 8-22-60210) From jim_pruyne at hp.com Wed Jun 1 12:11:49 2005 From: jim_pruyne at hp.com (Jim Pruyne) Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2005 12:11:49 -0500 Subject: [graap-wg] WS-Agreement spec In-Reply-To: <429DDA2B.8040500@mtg.biglobe.ne.jp> References: <4294B2A3.3010603@hp.com> <429DDA2B.8040500@mtg.biglobe.ne.jp> Message-ID: <429DEC55.7000201@hp.com> As always, the most recent draft can be found at: https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/graap-wg/document/WS-AgreementSpecificationDraft.doc/en/ --- Jim Toshiyuki Nakata wrote: > Hi: > Could some one please tell me the URL of the newest > draft of the spec so that I can check? > > Best Regards > Toshi > From jim_pruyne at hp.com Wed Jun 1 13:31:17 2005 From: jim_pruyne at hp.com (Jim Pruyne) Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2005 13:31:17 -0500 Subject: [graap-wg] change in telecon schedule Message-ID: <429DFEF5.2060902@hp.com> All, Due to conflicts with my schedule, we are slightly changing the teleconference schedule for the next two weeks. Next week, the teleconference will be on Tues. June 7 rather than Wed. June 8. The following week, the teleconference will be on Thurs. June 16 rather than Wed. June 15. The time of day will remain the same (10AM Central time US as the basis for conversions) Reminders will hopefully follow, but may not, particularly for the one on the 16th. --- Jim From t-nakata at cw.jp.nec.com Wed Jun 1 19:22:23 2005 From: t-nakata at cw.jp.nec.com (Toshiyuki Nakata) Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 09:22:23 +0900 Subject: [graap-wg] WS-Agreement spec In-Reply-To: <429DEC55.7000201@hp.com> References: <4294B2A3.3010603@hp.com> <429DDA2B.8040500@mtg.biglobe.ne.jp> <429DEC55.7000201@hp.com> Message-ID: <429E513F.90707@cw.jp.nec.com> Thank you very much. Following the resolution for comment 10, 'Referred Specs' I would suggest substituting the current table on page 6. with the one attached.. Problem is versions for WS-RF and WS-addressing probably have been updated by now. Perhaps delete the version numbers? 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So, I'm requesting > that anyone who's implemented all or parts of WS-Agreement take part in > this session. Also, anyone who is evaluating WS-Agreement for a > specific purpose is welcome to present. > > The goal is to expose this experience to all, and ideally capture shared > understanding of what's worked, what hasn't, and what issues we see when > considering interoperable WS-Agreement implementations. We'd also like > to find out what common scenarios or use cases we can derive which will > help with further discussion in the future. > > Anyone who can contribute, please let me, and preferablly the entire > mailing list know by replying to this, and I'd like to talk with you > further about participating in this session at GGF. > > Thanks! > > --- Jim > > > > > -- Toshiyuki Nakata t-nakata at cw.jp.nec.com +81-44-431-7653 (NEC Internal 8-22-60210) From t-nakata at cw.jp.nec.com Sun Jun 5 04:30:54 2005 From: t-nakata at cw.jp.nec.com (Toshiyuki Nakata) Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2005 18:30:54 +0900 Subject: [graap-wg] WS-Agreement spec In-Reply-To: <429E6184.2090202@cw.jp.nec.com> References: <4294B2A3.3010603@hp.com> <429DDA2B.8040500@mtg.biglobe.ne.jp> <429DEC55.7000201@hp.com> <429E6184.2090202@cw.jp.nec.com> Message-ID: <42A2C64E.3030702@cw.jp.nec.com> Hi: Rather than fighting with MS-Word, I decided that adding entries in the Excel sheet to mark what is reflected and what is not reflected in the spec would be quicker and gives the whole scope better.. So I added two columns in Public Comments. I hope they make the situation more clearer.. Best Regards PS in Page 15 there are two '/wsp:context' should these be '/wsag:context'?? Toshiyuki Nakata wrote: > Hello: > I tried to see if the various resolutions for the comments had been > reflected. > (I've only got to Comment 11, but there are many that had not been > reflected in the spec yet.) > > I've put the resolution part from the comments table as comments + ID. > I've attached the DOC (in zip file) in this file. > > #Funny thing is when I save the info, the comment Author's name > changed from Toshi to Author.. > #I've never experienced this before, and this is a nuisance. If any > one knows how to stop this.. > #For the time being, I've added TOSHI in front of the comments to show > that they are the ones. I put in > > It is going to take some time for me to check all these, so I am going > to post incrementally. > Best Regards > Toshi > > Jim Pruyne wrote: > >> As always, the most recent draft can be found at: >> >> https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/graap-wg/document/WS-AgreementSpecificationDraft.doc/en/ >> >> >> --- Jim >> >> Toshiyuki Nakata wrote: >> >>> Hi: >>> Could some one please tell me the URL of the newest >>> draft of the spec so that I can check? >>> >>> Best Regards >>> Toshi >>> >> >> > -- Toshiyuki Nakata ????? Internet System Laboratories NEC 1753, Shimonumabe, Nakahara-Ku, Kawasaki,Kanagawa 211-8666,Japan Tel +81-44-431-7653 (NEC Internal 22-60210) Fax +81-44-431-7681 (NEC Internal 22-60219) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Best Regards Toshi Toshiyuki Nakata wrote: > Hi: Rather than fighting with MS-Word, I decided that > adding entries in the Excel sheet to mark what is reflected > and what is not reflected in the spec would be quicker and gives > the whole scope better.. > > So I added two columns in Public Comments. > I hope they make the situation more clearer.. > > Best Regards > > PS > in Page 15 there are two '/wsp:context' should these be '/wsag:context'?? > > Toshiyuki Nakata wrote: > >> Hello: >> I tried to see if the various resolutions for the comments had been >> reflected. >> (I've only got to Comment 11, but there are many that had not been >> reflected in the spec yet.) >> >> I've put the resolution part from the comments table as comments + ID. >> I've attached the DOC (in zip file) in this file. >> >> #Funny thing is when I save the info, the comment Author's name >> changed from Toshi to Author.. >> #I've never experienced this before, and this is a nuisance. If any >> one knows how to stop this.. >> #For the time being, I've added TOSHI in front of the comments to >> show that they are the ones. I put in >> >> It is going to take some time for me to check all these, so I am >> going to post incrementally. >> Best Regards >> Toshi >> >> Jim Pruyne wrote: >> >>> As always, the most recent draft can be found at: >>> >>> https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/graap-wg/document/WS-AgreementSpecificationDraft.doc/en/ >>> >>> >>> --- Jim >>> >>> Toshiyuki Nakata wrote: >>> >>>> Hi: >>>> Could some one please tell me the URL of the newest >>>> draft of the spec so that I can check? >>>> >>>> Best Regards >>>> Toshi >>>> >>> >>> >> > -- Toshiyuki Nakata ????? Internet System Laboratories NEC 1753, Shimonumabe, Nakahara-Ku, Kawasaki,Kanagawa 211-8666,Japan Tel +81-44-431-7653 (NEC Internal 22-60210) Fax +81-44-431-7681 (NEC Internal 22-60219) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ogf.org/pipermail/graap-wg/attachments/20050605/7ee2f338/attachment.htm From t-nakata at cw.jp.nec.com Sun Jun 5 20:18:08 2005 From: t-nakata at cw.jp.nec.com (Toshiyuki Nakata) Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2005 10:18:08 +0900 Subject: [graap-wg] WS-Agreement spec In-Reply-To: <42A2CCA4.9070408@cw.jp.nec.com> References: <4294B2A3.3010603@hp.com> <429DDA2B.8040500@mtg.biglobe.ne.jp> <429DEC55.7000201@hp.com> <429E6184.2090202@cw.jp.nec.com> <42A2C64E.3030702@cw.jp.nec.com> <42A2CCA4.9070408@cw.jp.nec.com> Message-ID: <42A3A450.6080001@cw.jp.nec.com> Hello: I should mention that the draft I referred to was a bit old. (Wednesday last week version) If someone has made modifications please let me kno so that I can update the list. Best Regards Toshi Toshiyuki Nakata wrote: > Resending as some of the links were difficult to read. > Best Regards > Toshi > > > Toshiyuki Nakata wrote: > >> Hi: Rather than fighting with MS-Word, I decided that >> adding entries in the Excel sheet to mark what is reflected >> and what is not reflected in the spec would be quicker and gives >> the whole scope better.. >> >> So I added two columns in Public Comments. >> I hope they make the situation more clearer.. >> >> Best Regards >> >> PS >> in Page 15 there are two '/wsp:context' should these be >> '/wsag:context'?? >> >> Toshiyuki Nakata wrote: >> >>> Hello: >>> I tried to see if the various resolutions for the comments had been >>> reflected. >>> (I've only got to Comment 11, but there are many that had not been >>> reflected in the spec yet.) >>> >>> I've put the resolution part from the comments table as comments + ID. >>> I've attached the DOC (in zip file) in this file. >>> >>> #Funny thing is when I save the info, the comment Author's name >>> changed from Toshi to Author.. >>> #I've never experienced this before, and this is a nuisance. If any >>> one knows how to stop this.. >>> #For the time being, I've added TOSHI in front of the comments to >>> show that they are the ones. I put in >>> >>> It is going to take some time for me to check all these, so I am >>> going to post incrementally. >>> Best Regards >>> Toshi >>> >>> Jim Pruyne wrote: >>> >>>> As always, the most recent draft can be found at: >>>> >>>> https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/graap-wg/document/WS-AgreementSpecificationDraft.doc/en/ >>>> >>>> >>>> --- Jim >>>> >>>> Toshiyuki Nakata wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi: >>>>> Could some one please tell me the URL of the newest >>>>> draft of the spec so that I can check? >>>>> >>>>> Best Regards >>>>> Toshi >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> > -- Toshiyuki Nakata ????? Internet System Laboratories NEC 1753, Shimonumabe, Nakahara-Ku, Kawasaki,Kanagawa 211-8666,Japan Tel +81-44-431-7653 (NEC Internal 22-60210) Fax +81-44-431-7681 (NEC Internal 22-60219) From jim_pruyne at hp.com Tue Jun 7 01:53:51 2005 From: jim_pruyne at hp.com (Jim Pruyne) Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 01:53:51 -0500 Subject: [graap-wg] telecon reminder for 6/7 Message-ID: <42A5447F.9050303@hp.com> All, Just a reminder that we're having our telecon on Tues. June 7 this week, but at the normal times and numbers: Start Time: 10:00 AM Central US 11:00 AM Eastern US 8:00 AM Pacific US 1700 Germany 1600 UK Midnight Japan Dial in numbers: 866-673-8466 or 702-477-6031 code 8578310. --- Jim From jim_pruyne at hp.com Tue Jun 7 10:40:26 2005 From: jim_pruyne at hp.com (Jim Pruyne) Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 10:40:26 -0500 Subject: [graap-wg] OGSA Roadmap document Message-ID: <42A5BFEA.9000106@hp.com> Here's the roadmap document for OGSA. There are references to WS-Agreement in here, so people may be interested in seeing what OGSA is saying about WS-Agreement. The link is below: https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/ogsa-wg/document/draft-ggf-ogsa-roadmap/en/ --- Jim From jim_pruyne at hp.com Tue Jun 7 11:28:08 2005 From: jim_pruyne at hp.com (Jim Pruyne) Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 11:28:08 -0500 Subject: [graap-wg] minutes from 6/7 teleconference Message-ID: <42A5CB18.3080608@hp.com> They are attached. Next meeting will be on 6/16 at the usual time of day and phone numbers. --- Jim -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: Jun0705-minutes.txt Url: http://www.ogf.org/pipermail/graap-wg/attachments/20050607/ccb81587/attachment.txt From t-nakata at cw.jp.nec.com Tue Jun 7 23:28:27 2005 From: t-nakata at cw.jp.nec.com (Toshiyuki Nakata) Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2005 13:28:27 +0900 Subject: [graap-wg] OGSA Roadmap document In-Reply-To: <42A5BFEA.9000106@hp.com> References: <42A5BFEA.9000106@hp.com> Message-ID: <42A673EB.2090609@cw.jp.nec.com> hello: Can someone explain the exact meaning of states insitutional and evolving institutional? EG. WS-Addressing 1.0 is categorized in both institutional and evolving institutional.... Jim Pruyne wrote: > Here's the roadmap document for OGSA. There are references to > WS-Agreement in here, so people may be interested in seeing what OGSA > is saying about WS-Agreement. The link is below: > > https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/ogsa-wg/document/draft-ggf-ogsa-roadmap/en/ > > > > --- Jim > > -- Toshiyuki Nakata ????? Internet System Laboratories NEC 1753, Shimonumabe, Nakahara-Ku, Kawasaki,Kanagawa 211-8666,Japan Tel +81-44-431-7653 (NEC Internal 22-60210) Fax +81-44-431-7681 (NEC Internal 22-60219) From hiro.kishimoto at jp.fujitsu.com Tue Jun 7 23:45:56 2005 From: hiro.kishimoto at jp.fujitsu.com (Hiro Kishimoto) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 13:45:56 +0900 Subject: [graap-wg] OGSA Roadmap document In-Reply-To: <42A673EB.2090609@cw.jp.nec.com> Message-ID: <001d01c56be4$f56f8850$57d5190a@ORD> Hi Toshi, These terms are defined in the "OGSA profile definition 1.0." https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/ogsa-wg/document/draft-ggf-ogsa-profile-def inition/en/10 ? Institutional Standard ? An approved specification from a generally recognized standards development organization with open membership. Approved is defined by the processes of the institution in question. The specification is not expected to change without a repeat of the standardization process and this change is expected not to occur for a significant time. For example, WS-Security specification ? Evolving Institutional Standard ? A specification that is evolving toward an Institutional Standard. An active community within a recognized standards development organization is working on the specification. A specification of this status type must have an externally stable reference to the specification. For example, WSRF and WSN specifications > EG. WS-Addressing 1.0 is categorized in both institutional and evolving > institutional.... Since WS-Addressing 1.0 is not yet W2C recommendation, it should be evolving institutional. Jem is now working hard to eliminate such inconsistency in the roadmap document. Thanks, ---- Hiro Kishimoto > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-graap-wg at ggf.org [mailto:owner-graap-wg at ggf.org] On Behalf Of > Toshiyuki Nakata > Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 1:28 PM > To: Jim Pruyne > Cc: GRAAP-WG > Subject: Re: [graap-wg] OGSA Roadmap document > > hello: > Can someone explain the exact meaning of states insitutional and > evolving institutional? > EG. WS-Addressing 1.0 is categorized in both institutional and evolving > institutional.... > > Jim Pruyne wrote: > > > Here's the roadmap document for OGSA. There are references to > > WS-Agreement in here, so people may be interested in seeing what OGSA > > is saying about WS-Agreement. The link is below: > > > > https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/ogsa-wg/document/draft-ggf-ogsa- > roadmap/en/ > > > > > > > > --- Jim > > > > > > -- > Toshiyuki Nakata ????? > Internet System Laboratories NEC > 1753, Shimonumabe, Nakahara-Ku, > Kawasaki,Kanagawa 211-8666,Japan > Tel +81-44-431-7653 (NEC Internal 22-60210) > Fax +81-44-431-7681 (NEC Internal 22-60219) > > > From t-nakata at cw.jp.nec.com Wed Jun 8 00:09:06 2005 From: t-nakata at cw.jp.nec.com (Toshiyuki Nakata) Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2005 14:09:06 +0900 Subject: [graap-wg] minutes from 6/7 teleconference In-Reply-To: <42A5CB18.3080608@hp.com> References: <42A5CB18.3080608@hp.com> Message-ID: <42A67D72.40009@cw.jp.nec.com> Added two columns in the Public Comment List Best regards Toshi Jim Pruyne wrote: > They are attached. Next meeting will be on 6/16 at the usual time of > day and phone numbers. > > --- Jim > > -- Toshiyuki Nakata ????? Internet System Laboratories NEC 1753, Shimonumabe, Nakahara-Ku, Kawasaki,Kanagawa 211-8666,Japan Tel +81-44-431-7653 (NEC Internal 22-60210) Fax +81-44-431-7681 (NEC Internal 22-60219) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ogf.org/pipermail/graap-wg/attachments/20050608/c983aa06/attachment.htm From t-nakata at cw.jp.nec.com Wed Jun 8 00:16:32 2005 From: t-nakata at cw.jp.nec.com (Toshiyuki Nakata) Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2005 14:16:32 +0900 Subject: [graap-wg] OGSA Roadmap document In-Reply-To: <001d01c56be4$f56f8850$57d5190a@ORD> References: <001d01c56be4$f56f8850$57d5190a@ORD> Message-ID: <42A67F30.5030901@cw.jp.nec.com> Hiro: Thank you very much for your quick response. (I'll add the EIS part to what we are referring to in WS-Agreement) (And refer to the OGSA profile definition 1.0.) Best regards Toshi Hiro Kishimoto wrote: >Hi Toshi, > >These terms are defined in the "OGSA profile definition 1.0." >https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/ogsa-wg/document/draft-ggf-ogsa-profile-def >inition/en/10 > > >" Institutional Standard  An approved specification from a generally >recognized standards development organization with open membership. Approved is >defined by the processes of the institution in question. The specification is >not expected to change without a repeat of the standardization process and this >change is expected not to occur for a significant time. > >For example, WS-Security specification > >" Evolving Institutional Standard  A specification that is evolving >toward an Institutional Standard. An active community within a recognized >standards development organization is working on the specification. A >specification of this status type must have an externally stable reference to >the specification. > >For example, WSRF and WSN specifications > > > >>EG. WS-Addressing 1.0 is categorized in both institutional and evolving >>institutional.... >> >> > >Since WS-Addressing 1.0 is not yet W2C recommendation, it should be >evolving institutional. Jem is now working hard to eliminate such >inconsistency in the roadmap document. > >Thanks, >---- >Hiro Kishimoto > > > > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: owner-graap-wg at ggf.org [mailto:owner-graap-wg at ggf.org] On Behalf Of >>Toshiyuki Nakata >>Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 1:28 PM >>To: Jim Pruyne >>Cc: GRAAP-WG >>Subject: Re: [graap-wg] OGSA Roadmap document >> >>hello: >>Can someone explain the exact meaning of states insitutional and >>evolving institutional? >>EG. WS-Addressing 1.0 is categorized in both institutional and evolving >>institutional.... >> >>Jim Pruyne wrote: >> >> >> >>>Here's the roadmap document for OGSA. There are references to >>>WS-Agreement in here, so people may be interested in seeing what OGSA >>>is saying about WS-Agreement. The link is below: >>> >>>https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/ogsa-wg/document/draft-ggf-ogsa- >>> >>> >>roadmap/en/ >> >> >>> >>>--- Jim >>> >>> >>> >>> >>-- >>Toshiyuki Nakata ????? >>Internet System Laboratories NEC >>1753, Shimonumabe, Nakahara-Ku, >>Kawasaki,Kanagawa 211-8666,Japan >>Tel +81-44-431-7653 (NEC Internal 22-60210) >>Fax +81-44-431-7681 (NEC Internal 22-60219) >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > -- Toshiyuki Nakata ????? Internet System Laboratories NEC 1753, Shimonumabe, Nakahara-Ku, Kawasaki,Kanagawa 211-8666,Japan Tel +81-44-431-7653 (NEC Internal 22-60210) Fax +81-44-431-7681 (NEC Internal 22-60219) From t-nakata at cw.jp.nec.com Wed Jun 8 01:44:16 2005 From: t-nakata at cw.jp.nec.com (Toshiyuki Nakata) Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2005 15:44:16 +0900 Subject: [graap-wg] Terminal Fault(Id-26) In-Reply-To: <42A67D72.40009@cw.jp.nec.com> References: <42A5CB18.3080608@hp.com> <42A67D72.40009@cw.jp.nec.com> Message-ID: <42A693C0.4070909@cw.jp.nec.com> Hi:For ID-26 (Terminal Fault) I looked in the comment Tracker and It seems the response is that it had been deleted.. From last night's discussion, may I understand that I would try to see if it could be resurrected to be used to give hints to the Agreement Initiator what had been wrong? Best Regards Toshi By: Tiziana Ferrari Subject: TerminalFault [ Reply ] Date: 2005-02-17 It looks like the TerminalFault defined under the agreement type schema: is not used anywhere else. Is this intentional? By: Subject: group response [ Reply ] Date: 2005-04-28 Correct, it has been deleted. -- Toshiyuki Nakata ????? Internet System Laboratories NEC 1753, Shimonumabe, Nakahara-Ku, Kawasaki,Kanagawa 211-8666,Japan Tel +81-44-431-7653 (NEC Internal 22-60210) Fax +81-44-431-7681 (NEC Internal 22-60219) From t-nakata at cw.jp.nec.com Wed Jun 8 02:39:33 2005 From: t-nakata at cw.jp.nec.com (Toshiyuki Nakata) Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2005 16:39:33 +0900 Subject: [graap-wg] Terminal Fault(Id-26) In-Reply-To: <42A693C0.4070909@cw.jp.nec.com> References: <42A5CB18.3080608@hp.com> <42A67D72.40009@cw.jp.nec.com> <42A693C0.4070909@cw.jp.nec.com> Message-ID: <42A6A0B5.3060803@cw.jp.nec.com> Sorry please ignore the previous question., I hadn't realized that there were two kinds of faults. and that Continuing Fault is used while Termination Fault isn't. Best Regards Toshi Toshiyuki Nakata wrote: > Hi:For ID-26 (Terminal Fault) I looked in the comment Tracker and > It seems the response is that it had been deleted.. > > From last night's discussion, may I understand that I would try to see > if it could be resurrected to > be used to give hints to the Agreement Initiator what had been wrong? > > > Best Regards > Toshi > > By: Tiziana Ferrari > Subject: TerminalFault > [ Reply ] > > Date: 2005-02-17 > > It looks like the TerminalFault defined under the agreement type schema: > > > > is not used anywhere else. Is this intentional? > > By: > Subject: group response > [ Reply > ] > Date: 2005-04-28 > > Correct, it has been deleted. > > -- Toshiyuki Nakata ????? Internet System Laboratories NEC 1753, Shimonumabe, Nakahara-Ku, Kawasaki,Kanagawa 211-8666,Japan Tel +81-44-431-7653 (NEC Internal 22-60210) Fax +81-44-431-7681 (NEC Internal 22-60219) From nakata at mtg.biglobe.ne.jp Tue Jun 14 07:20:53 2005 From: nakata at mtg.biglobe.ne.jp (Toshiyuki Nakata) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 21:20:53 +0900 Subject: [graap-wg] minutes from 6/7 teleconference In-Reply-To: <42A5CB18.3080608@hp.com> References: <42A5CB18.3080608@hp.com> Message-ID: <42AECBA5.6090008@mtg.biglobe.ne.jp> Hello: In order to update the list, could you all please send the status of the updates to me around June 15th time frame? #It would certainly speed up the telecon which for me is from midnight... (I might fall asleep..) :-; Best.. Jim Pruyne wrote: > They are attached. Next meeting will be on 6/16 at the usual time of > day and phone numbers. > > --- Jim > > -- Toshiyuki Nakata t-nakata at cw.jp.nec.com +81-44-431-7653 (NEC Internal 8-22-60210) From jim_pruyne at hp.com Wed Jun 22 10:05:09 2005 From: jim_pruyne at hp.com (Jim Pruyne) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:05:09 -0500 Subject: [graap-wg] minutes from Jun16 telecon Message-ID: <42B97E25.4070606@hp.com> They are attached... --- Jim -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: Jun1605-minutes.txt Url: http://www.ogf.org/pipermail/graap-wg/attachments/20050622/975443cb/attachment.txt From ph.wieder at fz-juelich.de Wed Jun 22 10:23:40 2005 From: ph.wieder at fz-juelich.de (Philipp Wieder) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 17:23:40 +0200 Subject: [graap-wg] OGSA-RSS BoF at GGF14 In-Reply-To: <42AECBA5.6090008@mtg.biglobe.ne.jp> References: <42A5CB18.3080608@hp.com> <42AECBA5.6090008@mtg.biglobe.ne.jp> Message-ID: <42B9827C.5010606@fz-juelich.de> Dear All, please put the following date into your calendar: OGSA Resource Selection Services WG BoF Wednesday, June 29, 2005 2:00pm to 3:30pm Westin Michigan Avenue Hotel, Chicago, Regent 2 meeting room To get an idea of the services this group will focus on, documents planned, milestones and the group's relation to other GGF groups, please visit the preliminary web site at: http://h63759.serverkompetenz.net:8668//space/start I hope to see you in Chicago. Yours sincerely, Philipp Wieder. From bachelor at battre.de Wed Jun 22 10:22:37 2005 From: bachelor at battre.de (Dominic Battre) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:22:37 -0500 Subject: [graap-wg] minutes from Jun16 telecon In-Reply-To: <42B97E25.4070606@hp.com> References: <42B97E25.4070606@hp.com> Message-ID: <42B9823D.7040800@battre.de> Hi. > - GGF Sessions: Three are scheduled. > Experience session on the 28th at 2:30. > Status session on the 29th at 4:00. > Next steps session on the 30th at 11:00. > Joint session with CDDLM on the 30th at 9:00. According to http://www.gridforum.org/webevents/publish/webevent.cgi?cmd=listweek&cf=list&cal=cal80&d=27&m=06&y=2005 the experience session is scheduled to the 29th at 6:00: Jun 29, 6 p.m. - 7:30 p.m. Grid Resource Allocation Agreement Protocol - WG Calendar: Consulate 3 Details: WS-Agreement experience Reports Moderator: Jim Pruyne WS-Agreement has been in development for quite some time. Various groups have experience implementing all or portions of the specification, or have evaluated it for specific uses. This session will be reports from these groups. Anyone interested in participating or presenting their work is welcome, please contact Jim Pruyne to get on the agenda. A desired outcome of this session is a community of users and implementors that can lead to future interoperability work, and perhaps a common scenario to be modelled for interoperability experiments. Dominic From jim_pruyne at hp.com Wed Jun 22 12:02:15 2005 From: jim_pruyne at hp.com (Jim Pruyne) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:02:15 -0500 Subject: [graap-wg] telecon minutes for 6/22 Message-ID: <42B99997.9050204@hp.com> They are attached. We'll see folks at GGF next week. Have good travels. --- Jim -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: Jun2205-minutes.txt Url: http://www.ogf.org/pipermail/graap-wg/attachments/20050622/0170fa6d/attachment.txt From bachelor at battre.de Thu Jun 23 14:57:55 2005 From: bachelor at battre.de (Dominic Battre) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:57:55 -0500 Subject: [graap-wg] Comments WS-AG Spec Message-ID: <42BB1443.5000508@battre.de> Hi. I haven't followed the mailing list very closely recently, so I read the current specification again after a long absence. I don't know, whether you are still looking for comments, but these are some points, that came into my mind. Some typos and inconsistencies and some requests for possible clarification. Have a good travel to Chicago. Section 1.3 Namespace The prefix should be xsi instead of Xsi (lower case x) Section 4.1 Agreement Context most objects are optional, so I think the gray box should have several ? instead of + to indicate that. it should be /wsag:Context/{any} and /wsag:Context/@{anyAttribute} instead of /wsp:Context/... Section 4.2.1 Term Types: -> (moved ?) Section 4.2.5.1 Variable Set wsag:Metric="xsd:QName"? in gray box (new ?) as "This element is optional and..." Section 4.2.6.3.3 Preference I am a little bit confused about the /wsag:Preference/wsag:ServiceTermReference: what does it reference? /wsag:ServiceDescriptionTerm at wsag:Name? in that case, the type should be xs:NCName How come, you don't use wsag:Location? "/wsag:Preference/wsag:Utility This element can appear multiple times, one corresponding to each ServiceTermReference." Where is the connection of Utility to the ServiceTermReference? First S.T.R. <> first utility, second S.T.R. <> second utility, ...? I have read the schema files and from that I think it is better to put { xsd:string xsd:float } + into the gray box. Section 6 Compliance of Offers with Templates "In order for an agreement offer to be accepted, it MUST comply with at least one template advertised by the agreement provider to which the offer is submitted." In section 4.1 Agreement Context, you have requested that the /wsag:Context/wsag:TemplateName points to exactly one agreement template. I think it would help to add statements whether it is allowed to - add Terms that are not specified in the AgreementTemplate's Terms section, - delete Terms from the Agreement, that are part of the AgreementTemplate's Terms section but are not referenced in its creation constraints. As the added or deleted terms are not expressed in the wsag:CreationConstraints section in these cases, I assume that both operations are valid. Section 7.2 Guarantee States The guarantee states describe the current situation, but what is the semantic of the current situation? Example "I request a response time of <1 sec.", this response time has been exceeded for 1 hour yesterday, but we are within the limits again. Is the guarantee to *always* offer response times <1 sec fulfilled or not? Appendix Template //wsag:ServiceDescriptionTerm/job:arguments is "allowed" the right wording? From how I interpret the WSAG specification, it is required. Best, Dominic From nakata at mtg.biglobe.ne.jp Sat Jun 25 19:46:59 2005 From: nakata at mtg.biglobe.ne.jp (nakata) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 09:46:59 +0900 Subject: [graap-wg] telecon minutes for 6/22 In-Reply-To: <42B99997.9050204@hp.com> References: <42B99997.9050204@hp.com> Message-ID: <42BDFB03.5000702@mtg.biglobe.ne.jp> Hi: Jim Pruyne wrote: > They are attached. We'll see folks at GGF next week. Have good travels. > > --- Jim > >Agenda >------ > >- GGF Sessions: Three are scheduled. > Status session on the 29th at 4:00. > Experience session on the 29th at 6:00. > Next steps session on the 30th at 11:00. > > I looked at the current schedule listing in http://www.gridforum.org/webevents/publish/webevent.cgi?cmd=listweek&cf=list&cal=cal80&d=27&m=06&y=2005 today and it says.. Jun 28 2:30 p.m. - 4 p.m. Grid Resource Allocation Agreement Protocol - WG Calendar: Wellington 1 Details: WS-Agreement experience Reports Moderator: Jim Pruyne Hs it been re-shifted? (I do like this one beteer but I thought I'd better check..) Best Regards Toshi >Fo > > From jim_pruyne at hp.com Sun Jun 26 02:17:02 2005 From: jim_pruyne at hp.com (Jim Pruyne) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 02:17:02 -0500 Subject: [graap-wg] telecon minutes for 6/22 In-Reply-To: <42BDFB03.5000702@mtg.biglobe.ne.jp> References: <42B99997.9050204@hp.com> <42BDFB03.5000702@mtg.biglobe.ne.jp> Message-ID: <42BE566E.6060700@hp.com> As Toshi noticed, the session has been moved once again, ironically back to the spot it was originally allocated in. Unless it changes again, we'll see folks at 2:30 on Tues. --- Jim nakata wrote: >Hi: > > >Jim Pruyne wrote: > > > >>They are attached. We'll see folks at GGF next week. Have good travels. >> >>--- Jim >> >>Agenda >>------ >> >>- GGF Sessions: Three are scheduled. >> Status session on the 29th at 4:00. >> Experience session on the 29th at 6:00. >> Next steps session on the 30th at 11:00. >> >> >> >> > >I looked at the current schedule listing in > >http://www.gridforum.org/webevents/publish/webevent.cgi?cmd=listweek&cf=list&cal=cal80&d=27&m=06&y=2005 >today and it says.. > >Jun 28 > > > >2:30 p.m. - 4 p.m. > > >Grid Resource Allocation Agreement Protocol - WG >Calendar: Wellington 1 >Details: >WS-Agreement experience Reports >Moderator: Jim Pruyne > > >Hs it been re-shifted? > >(I do like this one beteer but I thought I'd better check..) > >Best Regards >Toshi > > > >>Fo >> >> >> >> > > > From nakata at mtg.biglobe.ne.jp Sun Jun 26 15:58:06 2005 From: nakata at mtg.biglobe.ne.jp (nakata) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 05:58:06 +0900 Subject: [graap-wg] Resource Property for State of the Agreement. In-Reply-To: <42BE566E.6060700@hp.com> References: <42B99997.9050204@hp.com> <42BDFB03.5000702@mtg.biglobe.ne.jp> <42BE566E.6060700@hp.com> Message-ID: <42BF16DE.3050302@mtg.biglobe.ne.jp> Hi: 1)Just as a memo, Resource Property description corresponding to 7.1 below. 2)Can someone please teach me how I can access the *newest* file? or else please send it to me so that I can acces it during the GRAAP meetings? Accessing https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/graap-wg/document/WS-AgreementSpecificationDraft.doc/en/ results in an error for Netscape and the August version of last year for IE6.1 :-( Best Regards Toshi 7.1 Agreement States The overall Agreement has a state derived from the Agreement protocol. ? Pending. The Pending state means that an Agreement offer has been received but it has been neither accepted nor rejected. This state can only result from use of the wsag:createPendingAgreement operation. ? Observed. The Observed state means that an Agreement offer has been received and accepted. This state MAY follow Pending. ? Rejected. The Rejected state means that an Agreement offer has been received and rejected. This state MAY follow Pending, and can only result from use of the wsag:createPendingAgreement operation. ? Complete. The Complete state means that an Agreement offer has been received and accepted, and that all activites pertaining to the Agreement are finished Jim Pruyne wrote: >As Toshi noticed, the session has been moved once again, ironically back >to the spot it was originally allocated in. Unless it changes again, >we'll see folks at 2:30 on Tues. > >--- Jim > >nakata wrote: > > > >>Hi: >> >> >>Jim Pruyne wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >>>They are attached. We'll see folks at GGF next week. Have good travels. >>> >>>--- Jim >>> >>>Agenda >>>------ >>> >>>- GGF Sessions: Three are scheduled. >>>Status session on the 29th at 4:00. >>>Experience session on the 29th at 6:00. >>>Next steps session on the 30th at 11:00. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>I looked at the current schedule listing in >> >>http://www.gridforum.org/webevents/publish/webevent.cgi?cmd=listweek&cf=list&cal=cal80&d=27&m=06&y=2005 >>today and it says.. >> >>Jun 28 >> >> >> >>2:30 p.m. - 4 p.m. >> >> >>Grid Resource Allocation Agreement Protocol - WG >>Calendar: Wellington 1 >>Details: >>WS-Agreement experience Reports >>Moderator: Jim Pruyne >> >> >>Hs it been re-shifted? >> >>(I do like this one beteer but I thought I'd better check..) >> >>Best Regards >>Toshi >> >> >> >> >> >>>Fo >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> > > > > > From nakata at mtg.biglobe.ne.jp Sun Jun 26 16:42:53 2005 From: nakata at mtg.biglobe.ne.jp (nakata) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 06:42:53 +0900 Subject: [graap-wg] Resource Property for State of the Agreement. In-Reply-To: <42BF16DE.3050302@mtg.biglobe.ne.jp> References: <42B99997.9050204@hp.com> <42BDFB03.5000702@mtg.biglobe.ne.jp> <42BE566E.6060700@hp.com> <42BF16DE.3050302@mtg.biglobe.ne.jp> Message-ID: <42BF215D.8060302@mtg.biglobe.ne.jp> Sorry forgot a sentence. nakata wrote: >Hi: >1)Just as a memo, Resource Property description corresponding to 7.1 below > should be in between 9.5 and 9.5.1 Best Regards >2)Can someone please teach me how I can access the *newest* file? >or else please send it to me so that I can acces it during the GRAAP >meetings? > >Accessing >https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/graap-wg/document/WS-AgreementSpecificationDraft.doc/en/ >results in an error for Netscape and the August version of last year for >IE6.1 :-( > >Best Regards >Toshi > >7.1 Agreement States > >The overall Agreement has a state derived from the Agreement protocol. > >? Pending. The Pending state means that an Agreement offer has been >received but it has been neither accepted nor rejected. This state can >only result from use of the wsag:createPendingAgreement operation. > >? Observed. The Observed state means that an Agreement offer has been >received and accepted. This state MAY follow Pending. > >? Rejected. The Rejected state means that an Agreement offer has been >received and rejected. This state MAY follow Pending, and can only >result from use of the wsag:createPendingAgreement operation. > >? Complete. The Complete state means that an Agreement offer has been >received and accepted, and that all activites pertaining to the >Agreement are finished > > > >Jim Pruyne wrote: > > > >>As Toshi noticed, the session has been moved once again, ironically back >>to the spot it was originally allocated in. Unless it changes again, >>we'll see folks at 2:30 on Tues. >> >>--- Jim >> >>nakata wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >>>Hi: >>> >>> >>>Jim Pruyne wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>They are attached. We'll see folks at GGF next week. Have good travels. >>>> >>>>--- Jim >>>> >>>>Agenda >>>>------ >>>> >>>>- GGF Sessions: Three are scheduled. >>>>Status session on the 29th at 4:00. >>>>Experience session on the 29th at 6:00. >>>>Next steps session on the 30th at 11:00. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>I looked at the current schedule listing in >>> >>>http://www.gridforum.org/webevents/publish/webevent.cgi?cmd=listweek&cf=list&cal=cal80&d=27&m=06&y=2005 >>>today and it says.. >>> >>>Jun 28 >>> >>> >>> >>>2:30 p.m. - 4 p.m. >>> >>> >>>Grid Resource Allocation Agreement Protocol - WG >>>Calendar: Wellington 1 >>>Details: >>>WS-Agreement experience Reports >>>Moderator: Jim Pruyne >>> >>> >>>Hs it been re-shifted? >>> >>>(I do like this one beteer but I thought I'd better check..) >>> >>>Best Regards >>>Toshi >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>Fo >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > From jim_pruyne at hp.com Mon Jun 27 11:08:53 2005 From: jim_pruyne at hp.com (Jim Pruyne) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 11:08:53 -0500 Subject: [graap-wg] [Fwd: [ogsa-wg] GGF14 slide template] Message-ID: <42C02495.3070909@hp.com> Folks, This appears to be a nice slide template. For those presenting at sessions, you may want to use this. I plan to. --- Jim -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [ogsa-wg] GGF14 slide template Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 21:44:04 +0900 From: Hiro Kishimoto Organization: Fujitsu To: Ogsa-Wg Hi GGF14 presenters, As usual, I've upload slide template to GridForge. If you need ppt template, please use this. https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/ogsa-wg/document/GGF14_slide_template/en/1 The file also includes template of session report for OGSA-WG #12 report session; Outcomes and achievements, Open Issues, and action items & next step. Session owners: Please fill in after your session and bring them to the session #12 (Thue 11am-12:30pm) or send them to me in advance. Thanks, -- Hiro Kishimoto From jim_pruyne at hp.com Wed Jun 29 14:15:14 2005 From: jim_pruyne at hp.com (Jim Pruyne) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 14:15:14 -0500 Subject: [graap-wg] 4PM Session in "Ontario" Message-ID: <42C2F342.80402@hp.com> For anyone at GGF today, and planning to attend our 4:00 session, please note that it has been moved to the Ontario room. --- Jim