From hludwig at us.ibm.com Wed Aug 3 10:19:25 2005 From: hludwig at us.ibm.com (Heiko Ludwig) Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2005 11:19:25 -0400 Subject: [graap-wg] Fw: Call in number Message-ID: There seems to be a call in problem right now. Alternative call in: Toll-free dial-in: 1-877-421-0025 Toll dial-in: 1-770-615-1242 Participant passcode: 598600 Heiko ----- Heiko Ludwig, Dr. rer. pol. IBM TJ Watson Research Center, PO Box 704, Yorktown, NY, 10598 hludwig at us.ibm.com, tel. +1 914 784 7160, mob. +1 646 675 8469 http://www.research.ibm.com/people/h/hludwig/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Is it clear what is meant by "symmetric messaging for monitoring and management"? (Also appears in #4) Points of clarification -- does this imply that there are two copies of the agreement, one for the client and one for the server? If so, must messages be exchanged to ensure these copies are consistent? I raised this earlier and it may have been addressed. Sincerely, Chris Dabrowski Christopher Dabrowski National Institute of Standards and Technology 100 Bureau Drive, Stop 8970 Gaithersburg, MD 20899-8970 Phone: +1 301 975-3249 FAX: +1 301 948-6213 cdabrowski at nist.gov -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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IBM TJ Watson Research Center, PO Box 704, Yorktown, NY, 10598 hludwig at us.ibm.com, tel. +1 914 784 7160, mob. +1 646 675 8469 http://www.research.ibm.com/people/h/hludwig/ Christopher Dabrowski Sent by: owner-graap-wg at ggf.org 08/03/2005 12:14 PM To graap-wg at gridforum.org cc Subject [graap-wg] Comment on section 9, first paragraph, All, An additional comment on Section 9, first paragraph #2 (WORD version of document dated July 13) states: "2 Call Back. As with the simple client-server scenario, the initiator invokes the AgreementFactory to create a responder-side Agreement. As additional input to the createAgreement call, the initiator passes the address of an initiator-side Agreement representing the offer he is making. As a result, both parties have an Agreement representing the same accepted agreement relationship between them, to allow symmetric messaging for monitoring and management." Is it clear what is meant by "symmetric messaging for monitoring and management"? (Also appears in #4) Points of clarification -- does this imply that there are two copies of the agreement, one for the client and one for the server? If so, must messages be exchanged to ensure these copies are consistent? I raised this earlier and it may have been addressed. Sincerely, Chris Dabrowski Christopher Dabrowski National Institute of Standards and Technology 100 Bureau Drive, Stop 8970 Gaithersburg, MD 20899-8970 Phone: +1 301 975-3249 FAX: +1 301 948-6213 cdabrowski at nist.gov -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Sincerely, Chris At 05:23 PM 8/3/2005, you wrote: >>X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 >>To: Christopher Dabrowski >>Cc: graap-wg at gridforum.org, owner-graap-wg at ggf.org >>Subject: Re: [graap-wg] Comment on section 9, first paragraph, >>X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.1IBM2 August 03, 2004 >>From: Heiko Ludwig >>Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2005 15:08:56 -0400 >>X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D01ML604/01/M/IBM(Build >>V70_M6_06302005 Beta 4|June >> 30, 2005) at 08/03/2005 15:08:57, >> Serialize complete at 08/03/2005 15:08:57 >>X-NIST-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information >>X-MailScanner: >>X-MailScanner-From: hludwig at us.ibm.com >> >> >>Good point, Chris. I added a clarifying sentence to the draft explaining >>that diverging state information is to be dealt with specifially to a >>particular domain, e.g., by replication or dispute handling. >> >>Heiko >> >>----- >>Heiko Ludwig, Dr. rer. pol. >>IBM TJ Watson Research Center, PO Box 704, Yorktown, NY, 10598 >>hludwig at us.ibm.com, tel. +1 914 784 7160, mob. +1 646 675 8469 >>http://www.research.ibm.com/people/h/hludwig/ >> >> >> >> >>Christopher Dabrowski >>Sent by: owner-graap-wg at ggf.org >> >>08/03/2005 12:14 PM >>To >>graap-wg at gridforum.org >>cc >>Subject >>[graap-wg] Comment on section 9, first paragraph, >> >> >> >> >>All, >> >>An additional comment on Section 9, first paragraph #2 >>(WORD version of document dated July 13) states: >> >>"2 Call Back. As with the simple client-server scenario, the initiator >>invokes the AgreementFactory to create a responder-side Agreement. As >>additional input to the createAgreement call, the initiator passes the >>address >>of an initiator-side Agreement representing the offer he is making. As a >>result, both parties have an Agreement representing the same accepted >>agreement relationship between them, to allow symmetric messaging for >>monitoring and management." >> >>Is it clear what is meant by "symmetric messaging for monitoring and >>management"? (Also appears in #4) >> >>Points of clarification -- does this imply that there are two copies of the >>agreement, one for the client and one for the server? If so, must >>messages be exchanged to ensure these copies are consistent? >> >>I raised this earlier and it may have been addressed. >> >>Sincerely, >>Chris Dabrowski >> >> >> >>Christopher Dabrowski >>National Institute of Standards and Technology >>100 Bureau Drive, Stop 8970 >>Gaithersburg, MD 20899-8970 >>Phone: +1 301 975-3249 >>FAX: +1 301 948-6213 >>cdabrowski at nist.gov > > >Christopher Dabrowski >National Institute of Standards and Technology >100 Bureau Drive, Stop 8970 >Gaithersburg, MD 20899-8970 >Phone: +1 301 975-3249 >FAX: +1 301 948-6213 >cdabrowski at nist.gov -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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IBM TJ Watson Research Center, PO Box 704, Yorktown, NY, 10598 hludwig at us.ibm.com, tel. +1 914 784 7160, mob. +1 646 675 8469 http://www.research.ibm.com/people/h/hludwig/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.ogf.org/pipermail/graap-wg/attachments/20050810/70a1c16f/attachment.html From keahey at mcs.anl.gov Fri Aug 12 09:03:19 2005 From: keahey at mcs.anl.gov (Kate Keahey) Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 09:03:19 -0500 Subject: [graap-wg] WS-Agreement implementations Message-ID: <42FCAC27.20102@mcs.anl.gov> All, I understand that there are quite a few WS-Agreement implmentation efforts. Is there an official page listing them all? Also, are any of them publicly available or are there plans to make them available in the future? From ph.wieder at fz-juelich.de Fri Aug 12 09:10:47 2005 From: ph.wieder at fz-juelich.de (Philipp Wieder) Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 16:10:47 +0200 Subject: [graap-wg] WS-Agreement implementations In-Reply-To: <42FCAC27.20102@mcs.anl.gov> References: <42FCAC27.20102@mcs.anl.gov> Message-ID: <42FCADE7.7070203@fz-juelich.de> Daer Kate, we definitely should have them listed. We talked about a revision of the GridForge page at GGF14 and I propose to include such a list there once this is done (maybe once the spec is out). Best regards, Philipp. Kate Keahey wrote: > All, > > I understand that there are quite a few WS-Agreement implmentation > efforts. Is there an official page listing them all? Also, are any of > them publicly available or are there plans to make them available in the > future? > From keahey at mcs.anl.gov Fri Aug 12 09:13:00 2005 From: keahey at mcs.anl.gov (Kate Keahey) Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 09:13:00 -0500 Subject: [graap-wg] WS-Agreement implementations In-Reply-To: <42FCADE7.7070203@fz-juelich.de> References: <42FCAC27.20102@mcs.anl.gov> <42FCADE7.7070203@fz-juelich.de> Message-ID: <42FCAE6C.4020101@mcs.anl.gov> In the meantime, can somebody point me at the implementations that are available? Many thanks! Philipp Wieder wrote: > Daer Kate, > > we definitely should have them listed. We talked about a revision of the > GridForge page at GGF14 and I propose to include such a list there once > this is done (maybe once the spec is out). > > Best regards, Philipp. > > Kate Keahey wrote: > >> All, >> >> I understand that there are quite a few WS-Agreement implmentation >> efforts. Is there an official page listing them all? Also, are any of >> them publicly available or are there plans to make them available in >> the future? >> > > From ph.wieder at fz-juelich.de Fri Aug 12 09:21:11 2005 From: ph.wieder at fz-juelich.de (ph.wieder) Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 16:21:11 +0200 Subject: [graap-wg] WS-Agreement implementations In-Reply-To: <42FCAE6C.4020101@mcs.anl.gov> References: <42FCAC27.20102@mcs.anl.gov> <42FCADE7.7070203@fz-juelich.de> <42FCAE6C.4020101@mcs.anl.gov> Message-ID: <42FCB057.2010004@fz-juelich.de> Dear Kate, if you check the GGF14 folder at GridForge (https://forge.gridforum.org/docman2/ViewCategory.php?group_id=71&category_id=1088), there are some presentations of WS-Agreement implementations. A complete list of the people who presented their work is in the session #1 presentation. I hope that helps a bit. Best regards, Philipp. Kate Keahey wrote: > In the meantime, can somebody point me at the implementations that are > available? Many thanks! > > Philipp Wieder wrote: > >> Daer Kate, >> >> we definitely should have them listed. We talked about a revision of >> the GridForge page at GGF14 and I propose to include such a list there >> once this is done (maybe once the spec is out). >> >> Best regards, Philipp. >> >> Kate Keahey wrote: >> >>> All, >>> >>> I understand that there are quite a few WS-Agreement implmentation >>> efforts. Is there an official page listing them all? Also, are any of >>> them publicly available or are there plans to make them available in >>> the future? >>> >> >> From tiziana.ferrari at cnaf.infn.it Fri Aug 12 09:25:56 2005 From: tiziana.ferrari at cnaf.infn.it (Tiziana Ferrari) Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 16:25:56 +0200 Subject: [graap-wg] WS-Agreement implementations References: <42FCAC27.20102@mcs.anl.gov> <42FCADE7.7070203@fz-juelich.de> <42FCAE6C.4020101@mcs.anl.gov> Message-ID: <012f01c59f49$c3c0d230$29039a83@antares> Hi Kate, this is the pointer to our work in the framework of the EGEE project, I hope it helps: http://www.cnaf.infn.it/~ferrari/infn-grid-wp5/egee-jra1/ At that page you can find a pointer to an overview presentation (see GGF14) that we submitted to Jim P. for presentation as we could not attend in person. I don't know if he actually managed to present it on our behalf, anyway, that's currently an uptodate overview. But the page also has more pointers to more detailed technical papers. Thanks for considering this, Tiziana ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kate Keahey" To: "Philipp Wieder" Cc: Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 4:13 PM Subject: Re: [graap-wg] WS-Agreement implementations > In the meantime, can somebody point me at the implementations that are > available? Many thanks! > > Philipp Wieder wrote: >> Daer Kate, >> >> we definitely should have them listed. We talked about a revision of the >> GridForge page at GGF14 and I propose to include such a list there once >> this is done (maybe once the spec is out). >> >> Best regards, Philipp. >> >> Kate Keahey wrote: >> >>> All, >>> >>> I understand that there are quite a few WS-Agreement implmentation >>> efforts. Is there an official page listing them all? Also, are any of >>> them publicly available or are there plans to make them available in the >>> future? >>> >> >> > > From Wolfgang.Ziegler at scai.fraunhofer.de Fri Aug 12 15:38:43 2005 From: Wolfgang.Ziegler at scai.fraunhofer.de (Wolfgang Ziegler) Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 22:38:43 +0200 Subject: [graap-wg] WS-Agreement implementations In-Reply-To: <42FCAE6C.4020101@mcs.anl.gov> References: <42FCAC27.20102@mcs.anl.gov> <42FCADE7.7070203@fz-juelich.de> <42FCAE6C.4020101@mcs.anl.gov> Message-ID: <42FD08D3.7060406@scai.fraunhofer.de> Dear Kate, there is no in depth description yet of the implementation we did in the context of the VIOLA project, this is to become available within the next couple of months. However, we have a paper describing the environment and the use of the Agreement in the UNICORE resource framework which is the middleware used in this project. The paper will be published in the LNCS series of Springer end of this year but I could forward a version we published as CoreGRID technical report, if you need more details now. Best regards Wolfgang Kate Keahey wrote: > In the meantime, can somebody point me at the implementations that are > available? Many thanks! > > Philipp Wieder wrote: > >> Daer Kate, >> >> we definitely should have them listed. We talked about a revision of >> the GridForge page at GGF14 and I propose to include such a list there >> once this is done (maybe once the spec is out). >> >> Best regards, Philipp. >> >> Kate Keahey wrote: >> >>> All, >>> >>> I understand that there are quite a few WS-Agreement implmentation >>> efforts. Is there an official page listing them all? Also, are any of >>> them publicly available or are there plans to make them available in >>> the future? >>> >> >> > -- Fraunhofer-Institute for Algorithms and Scientific Computing (SCAI) Schloss Birlinghoven, D-53754 Sankt Augustin, Germany Tel: +49 2241 14 2258 Fax: +49 2241 14 42258 http://www.scai.fraunhofer.de "Heut ist nicht so kalt wie gestern, trotzdem dass heut kaelter ist" -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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But the page also has more > pointers to more detailed technical papers. yes, Jim presented your slides during GRAAP session #1. As Phillip wrote in his previous mail all presentations are available in the gridforge space at https://forge.gridforum.org/docman2/ViewCategory.php?group_id=71&category_id=1088 Best regards Wolfgang > > Thanks for considering this, > Tiziana > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kate Keahey" > To: "Philipp Wieder" > Cc: > Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 4:13 PM > Subject: Re: [graap-wg] WS-Agreement implementations > > >> In the meantime, can somebody point me at the implementations that are >> available? Many thanks! >> >> Philipp Wieder wrote: >> >>> Daer Kate, >>> >>> we definitely should have them listed. We talked about a revision of >>> the GridForge page at GGF14 and I propose to include such a list >>> there once this is done (maybe once the spec is out). >>> >>> Best regards, Philipp. >>> >>> Kate Keahey wrote: >>> >>>> All, >>>> >>>> I understand that there are quite a few WS-Agreement implmentation >>>> efforts. Is there an official page listing them all? Also, are any >>>> of them publicly available or are there plans to make them available >>>> in the future? >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > -- Fraunhofer-Institute for Algorithms and Scientific Computing (SCAI) Schloss Birlinghoven, D-53754 Sankt Augustin, Germany Tel: +49 2241 14 2258 Fax: +49 2241 14 42258 http://www.scai.fraunhofer.de "Heut ist nicht so kalt wie gestern, trotzdem dass heut kaelter ist" -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Best Regards Toshi. 10 Agreement Creation Use Case Note: since the binding between the agreement layer and the layer of the service being provided is out of the scope of this specification, we omit the steps and operations that expose service layer services or application functionality. Suggestions include using the [WS-ServiceGroup] idiom to have the Agreement service expose the list of services it binds to. > > From jim_pruyne at hp.com Tue Aug 16 18:30:12 2005 From: jim_pruyne at hp.com (Jim Pruyne) Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 18:30:12 -0500 Subject: [graap-wg] telecon on 8/17 Message-ID: <43027704.7040707@hp.com> Folks, We should be able to return to our usual telecon. schedule tomorrow. Times and numbers will be the same as usual: Start Time: 10:00 AM Central US 11:00 AM Eastern US 8:00 AM Pacific US 1700 Germany 1600 UK Midnight Japan Dial in numbers: 866-673-8466 or 702-477-6031 code 8578310. Last weeks minutes say we have the following open issues. I'd like to discuss these and make sure we know how they are being addressed. - Fixing the template description of Agreement Factory and PendingFactory - Adding new serices references list to WSDL and text - Fix Business Value example in the appendix - Re-integrate schemas and examples. Thanks. --- Jim From hludwig at us.ibm.com Wed Aug 17 09:52:37 2005 From: hludwig at us.ibm.com (Heiko Ludwig) Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 10:52:37 -0400 Subject: [graap-wg] telecon on 8/17 In-Reply-To: <43027704.7040707@hp.com> Message-ID: Jim, I incorporated the template and service references fixes into the draft. The integration of schemas and WSDLS and the integration of Karls examples and the business value example is still onthe todo list. this is the current state: Let's discuss the distribution of work in the call. Heiko ----- Heiko Ludwig, Dr. rer. pol. 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Best regards Wolfgang -- Fraunhofer-Institute for Algorithms and Scientific Computing (SCAI) Schloss Birlinghoven, D-53754 Sankt Augustin, Germany Tel: +49 2241 14 2258 Fax: +49 2241 14 42258 http://www.scai.fraunhofer.de "Heut ist nicht so kalt wie gestern, trotzdem dass heut kaelter ist" -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature Size: 3761 bytes Desc: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Url : http://www.ogf.org/pipermail/graap-wg/attachments/20050824/ccf4da71/attachment.bin From t-nakata at cw.jp.nec.com Mon Aug 29 05:47:15 2005 From: t-nakata at cw.jp.nec.com (Toshiyuki Nakata) Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 19:47:15 +0900 Subject: [graap-wg] telecon on 8/17 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4312E7B3.9070706@cw.jp.nec.com> Some minor changes. (Added WSRF-ResourceLifeTime and WS-RF Basefaults into what we depend on.) I also added a statement The wsrl:Destroy operation as defined in the [WS-ResourceLifetime] MAY be used to explicitly <#_msocom_1> destroy no longer used resources. in P.40 to reflect the lifetime issues but am not sure whether this is the right place or the right wording to be used. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Also, I've changed the AgreementStateType in agreement_state_types.xsd (renamed to **mod.xsd) to reflect the changes in the naming of the AgreementStateType but I can't do more to really reflect it in the way that Karl has written in the XML snippet as I have not followed the discussion on * . best regards Also, it seems the import statements should be modified if we are to stick to compatibility with GlobusToolkit4.0.0.. But have not had time to really look into it yes. Best regards Toshi -- Toshiyuki Nakata ????? Chief Engineer, Central Research Lab. 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