From stephen.burke at stfc.ac.uk  Fri Jul  2 07:20:36 2010
From: stephen.burke at stfc.ac.uk (stephen.burke at stfc.ac.uk)
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 13:20:36 +0100
Subject: [glue-wg] Adopting a GLUE2 XML Schema?
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Andre Merzky [mailto:andre at merzky.net] said:
> That is great news :-)  Is there hope that this will trigger the
> LDAP binding document completion sometime soon?

I've just uploaded a new draft:

http://forge.ogf.org/sf/go/doc15518?nav=1

I've added quite a lot of detail explaining the rationale for our
decisions, which might be helpful for people looking at the xml
rendering. The document probably still needs some polishing, but I think
the content is basically there. Comments welcome ...

Stephen

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From balazs.konya at hep.lu.se  Mon Jul  5 05:55:01 2010
From: balazs.konya at hep.lu.se (Balazs Konya)
Date: Mon, 05 Jul 2010 12:55:01 +0200
Subject: [glue-wg] Adopting a GLUE2 XML Schema?
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hi Andre, group,

On 2010-06-23 14:52, Andre Merzky wrote:
> Hi Sergio, GLUE-group,
>
> what is the current status of the XML renderings?  AFAICS, there has
> not been much activity after OGF28 - is that a sign of lacking
> interest and/or resources to finish the schema, or is there work
> done in the background?
>
> I guess the same question holds for the other planned renderings
> (LDAP, others?) - but several groups at OGF, in particular JSDL,
> would greatly benefit from a normative GLUE-2.0 XML schema.
>
> Greeting from OGF29,
>
>    your friendly AD.

The interest is there, it is just the time which was not available.

Laurence gave already a reply related to the LDAP part.

Concerning the XML rendering, couple of weeks ago, before the OGF29, i met 
Sergio and back then we were very optimistic and committed to pick up the XML 
rendering thread again and come with a ready-to-submit version by the Brussels 
OGF30, the latest.

All in all, i except some real work to start after the summer holidays.

The group should release at least the LDAP and XML rendering document still this 
year :)


cheers,
Balazs Konya

From a.memon at fz-juelich.de  Tue Jul  6 07:44:01 2010
From: a.memon at fz-juelich.de (Shiraz Memon)
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2010 14:44:01 +0200
Subject: [glue-wg] Adopting a GLUE2 XML Schema?
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Hi Folks,

The current xml binding tools such as XMLBeans and/or JAXB2 do not generate
the correct xml instance from the current glue2 xsd.

the generated document from these tools is identical (see below):

1.   <Domains xmlns="http://schemas.ogf.org/glue/2008/05/spec_2.0_d42_r01">
2.       <AdminDomain xmlns=""/>
3.    </Domains>


However the following attributes should be added to avoid mishandling of the
namespaces:

elementFormDefault="qualified" attributeFormDefault="unqualified"


whereas the generated instance document looks like,

1.   <Domains xmlns="http://schemas.ogf.org/glue/2008/05/spec_2.0_d42_r01"
xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance">
2.       <AdminDomain>
3.                 <Services />
4.          </AdminDomain>
5.    </Domains>

Any comments?

Shiraz

On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Balazs Konya <balazs.konya at hep.lu.se>wrote:

> hi Andre, group,
>
> On 2010-06-23 14:52, Andre Merzky wrote:
> > Hi Sergio, GLUE-group,
> >
> > what is the current status of the XML renderings?  AFAICS, there has
> > not been much activity after OGF28 - is that a sign of lacking
> > interest and/or resources to finish the schema, or is there work
> > done in the background?
> >
> > I guess the same question holds for the other planned renderings
> > (LDAP, others?) - but several groups at OGF, in particular JSDL,
> > would greatly benefit from a normative GLUE-2.0 XML schema.
> >
> > Greeting from OGF29,
> >
> >    your friendly AD.
>
> The interest is there, it is just the time which was not available.
>
> Laurence gave already a reply related to the LDAP part.
>
> Concerning the XML rendering, couple of weeks ago, before the OGF29, i met
> Sergio and back then we were very optimistic and committed to pick up the
> XML
> rendering thread again and come with a ready-to-submit version by the
> Brussels
> OGF30, the latest.
>
> All in all, i except some real work to start after the summer holidays.
>
> The group should release at least the LDAP and XML rendering document still
> this
> year :)
>
>
> cheers,
> Balazs Konya
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From andre at merzky.net  Wed Jul 21 06:29:11 2010
From: andre at merzky.net (Andre Merzky)
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 13:29:11 +0200
Subject: [glue-wg] Adopting a GLUE2 XML Schema?
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Dear Balasz, Laurence, 

thanks for the update on the LDAP and XML rendering documents!  
I am looking forward to OGF30 then :-)

Best wishes, Andre.


Quoting [Balazs Konya] (Jul 05 2010):
> 
> hi Andre, group,
> 
> On 2010-06-23 14:52, Andre Merzky wrote:
> > Hi Sergio, GLUE-group,
> >
> > what is the current status of the XML renderings?  AFAICS, there has
> > not been much activity after OGF28 - is that a sign of lacking
> > interest and/or resources to finish the schema, or is there work
> > done in the background?
> >
> > I guess the same question holds for the other planned renderings
> > (LDAP, others?) - but several groups at OGF, in particular JSDL,
> > would greatly benefit from a normative GLUE-2.0 XML schema.
> >
> > Greeting from OGF29,
> >
> >    your friendly AD.
> 
> The interest is there, it is just the time which was not available.
> 
> Laurence gave already a reply related to the LDAP part.
> 
> Concerning the XML rendering, couple of weeks ago, before the OGF29, i met 
> Sergio and back then we were very optimistic and committed to pick up the XML 
> rendering thread again and come with a ready-to-submit version by the Brussels 
> OGF30, the latest.
> 
> All in all, i except some real work to start after the summer holidays.
> 
> The group should release at least the LDAP and XML rendering document still this 
> year :)
> 
> 
> cheers,
> Balazs Konya
> _______________________________________________
> glue-wg mailing list
> glue-wg at ogf.org
> http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/glue-wg



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