<br><font size=2 color=blue face="Arial">In conjunction with the annotated
document these notes are clear, except for 'sp165'. Perhaps someone will
recapitulate the discussion briefly at Wednesday's conference. I think
only three annotations remain:</font>
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<br><font size=2 color=blue face="Arial"> sp167 Absent and
missing (expanded discussion on the wiki already)</font>
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<br><font size=2 color=blue face="Arial">This will be a major topic on
a call.</font>
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<br><font size=2 color=blue face="Arial"> sp172 separatorType="infix"</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 color=blue face="Arial">I'm happy to drop this strange
stuff about separatorType=prefix or postfix and just say separator means
infix. However, I would note that at least two major integration products
(IBM WebSphere Transformation Extender - formerly Mercator, and Microsoft
Biztalk, have this concept, so we may end up putting it back in. Presumably
MS copied the earlier Mercator style, or both got it from common requirements
in some EDI standard.</font>
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<br><font size=2 color=blue face="Arial"> sp173 defaultWhenMissing
(expanded discussion on the wiki already)</font>
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<br><font size=3>Same topic as sp167 above. Will have a call topic to discuss.
</font>
<br><font size=3> </font>
<br><font size=2 color=blue face="Arial">I've added another contribution
to the wiki discussion on 'require'.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 color=blue face="Arial">This seems to be at resolution
I think, which is that we can express this using assertions. The general
style of using DFDL to describe what fixed-data syntactic constructs look
like is a good one.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 color=blue face="Arial">However, I've amended the Wiki
thread on this with a further issue for group consideration. See bottom
of page: </font>
<br><font size=2 color=blue face="Arial">https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/wiki/do/viewPage/projects.dfdl-wg/wiki/Require?_message=1187096164776</font>
<br><font size=3> </font>
<br><font size=2 color=blue face="Arial">The 'length and occurs' proposal
is an improvement, though I still have reservations to discuss; likewise
the 'opaque data' proposal.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">For a call, this week or soon. I will
send out an agenda.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Mike Beckerle<br>
STSM, Architect, Scalable Computing<br>
IBM Software Group<br>
Information Platform and Solutions<br>
Westborough, MA 01581<br>
direct: voice and FAX 508-599-7148<br>
assistant: Pam Riordan <br>
priordan@us.ibm.com
<br>
508-599-7046<br>
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<td width=40%><font size=1 face="sans-serif"><b>"Simon Parker"
<simon.parker@polarlake.com></b> </font>
<br><font size=1 face="sans-serif">Sent by: dfdl-wg-bounces@ogf.org</font>
<p><font size=1 face="sans-serif">08/13/2007 10:56 AM</font>
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<div align=right><font size=1 face="sans-serif">Subject</font></div>
<td><font size=1 face="sans-serif">Re: [DFDL-WG] Minutes from 2007-08-08
Call</font></table>
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<br><font size=3> </font>
<br><font size=2 color=blue face="Arial">In conjunction with the annotated
document these notes are clear, except for 'sp165'. Perhaps someone will
recapitulate the discussion briefly at Wednesday's conference. I think
only three annotations remain:</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 color=blue face="Arial"> sp167 Absent and
missing (expanded discussion on the wiki already)</font>
<br><font size=2 color=blue face="Arial"> sp172 separatorType="infix"</font>
<br><font size=2 color=blue face="Arial"> sp173 defaultWhenMissing
(expanded discussion on the wiki already)</font>
<br><font size=3> </font>
<br><font size=2 color=blue face="Arial">I've added another contribution
to the wiki discussion on 'require'.</font>
<br><font size=3> </font>
<br><font size=2 color=blue face="Arial">The 'length and occurs' proposal
is an improvement, though I still have reservations to discuss; likewise
the 'opaque data' proposal.</font>
<br><font size=3> </font>
<br><font size=2 color=blue face="Arial">Regards,</font>
<br><font size=2 face="Arial"> Simon</font>
<br><font size=3> </font>
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<hr><font size=2 face="Tahoma"><b>From:</b> dfdl-wg-bounces@ogf.org [mailto:dfdl-wg-bounces@ogf.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Mike Beckerle<b><br>
Sent:</b> 08 August 2007 18:00<b><br>
To:</b> dfdl-wg@ogf.org<b><br>
Subject:</b> [DFDL-WG] Minutes from 2007-08-08 Call</font><font size=3><br>
</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
MikeB, Geoff Judd, Alan Powell attended.</font><font size=3> <br>
</font><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
Continued through SP's comments.</font><font size=3> <br>
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sp37 - got it.</font><font size=3> <br>
</font><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
sp45 - agree. This whole part to be rewritten.</font><font size=3> <br>
</font><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
sp115 - ok. strict and "lax" as enums. No built-in default -
we never use defaults in the processor itself. Only in the predefined formats.</font><font size=3>
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</font><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
sp118 - ok</font><font size=3> <br>
</font><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
sp123 - Proposal to simplify length, lengthKind, lengthUnits, and also
occursKind, occursPath, occursPathUnits needed. (along the lines of byteCount,
itemCount, length='delimited' enum, etc.)</font><font size=3> <br>
</font><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
sp154 - Need specific proposal to eliminate hexBinary and use what for
opaque (consider also string with encoding='bytes'. ) Or introduce
a dfdl:byteString type or dfdl:opaque type. (derived type - just a standard
name).</font><font size=3> <br>
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</font><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
sp158 - see sp123</font><font size=3> <br>
</font><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
sp165 - needed to have composition property for enclosing groups and or
end-of-data. Regexp doesn't fix this. </font><font size=3><br>
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</font><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
Mike Beckerle<br>
STSM, Architect, Scalable Computing<br>
IBM Software Group<br>
Information Platform and Solutions<br>
Westborough, MA 01581<br>
direct: voice and FAX 508-599-7148<br>
assistant: Pam Riordan <br>
priordan@us.ibm.com
<br>
508-599-7046<br>
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